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    BIS Tier 16 List (WIP Could use feedback)

    So, this is what I have considering we only have the PTR wow data base to work with. Any comments, counter arguments, suggestions would be much appreciated! **I did NOT do any Math regarding these selections, just looked at stats/sockets and came up with what I thought would be legit.**

    Boomkin BIS According To Dawgy:

    Helm: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/99175-cov...shattered-vale
    Neck: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103868-ashflare-pendant
    Shoulders: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/99169-sho...shattered-vale
    Cloak: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/102246-xi...reath-of-yulon
    Chest: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103948-amber-parasite-robes
    http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103947-ro...-warriors-fall
    Bracers: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103758-br...erted-fatality
    http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103757-br...urified-spirit
    Belt: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103905-dr...mergency-strap
    http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/98609-pennyroyal-belt
    Legs: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/99176-leg...shattered-vale
    Gloves: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/99174-glo...shattered-vale
    Boots: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103762-bo...roken-reliance
    Rings 1: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103825-5-...r-wildcard-int
    Ring 2: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103772-seal-of-sullen-fury
    Trinket 1: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/102313-5-...-boss-x-loot-x
    Trinket 2: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/102293-pu...s-of-immerseus
    Weapon 2H: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103874-le...thic-apparatus
    1H: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103937-ho...f-the-old-ones
    Rik'kal's Bloody Scalpel
    OH: http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103918-ju...uts-power-core
    http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/103919-fe...ordial-globule
    **Trinkets are subject to change based on more math and findings**
    **Most of this depends on stat weights, after reaching 10,296 Haste, Going Full Crit/Int**
    Last edited by Dawgystyle; 2013-07-29 at 08:01 PM.

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    It's a bit early to make the BiS lists as they haven't even released the "thunderforged" versions of the items. And the stats on the items might not even be final. Maybe this cna be used as something to base the real list from later.

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    As I said in the PM, your gear looks good from a T15 viewpoint in terms of stats and choice. However, I don't (nor does anyone really) currently have the means to assess the T16 gear and the interactions thereof simply because WrathCalcs and SimCraft aren't fully updated and the PTR will most likely feature a few more changes.

    So while I'd really like to give feedback, I can't because I would just be guessing without proper support from models.

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    Going to put my obligatory - oh boy look at all that haste post in here. I really don't like the look of all that haste.

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    i think we will go with offset gloves instead of chest and the int stack trinket >>> crit procc trinket, because we stack the int in 4-5 sec to 10.
    btw did you considered the change of haste breakpoint through the 14% amp trinket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippykins View Post
    As I said in the PM, your gear looks good from a T15 viewpoint in terms of stats and choice. However, I don't (nor does anyone really) currently have the means to assess the T16 gear and the interactions thereof simply because WrathCalcs and SimCraft aren't fully updated and the PTR will most likely feature a few more changes.
    Items are still changing as well. The multi-strike proc has been increased to 19.6% chance somewhere along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Items are still changing as well. The multi-strike proc has been increased to 19.6% chance somewhere along the way.
    Yeah, trinkets are always more volatile than the rest of the gear because they typically feature a weird or unique mechanic. Changing around numbers in models can be taxing but it's often easy - when Blizzard changes mechanics completely (ie. SotF, DoC) then models are slower to become available.

    I think most (if not all) of the mechanical changes are done, we'll just see some number tweaking and I'll be able to get a preliminary list up soonish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumdidum View Post
    i think we will go with offset gloves instead of chest and the int stack trinket >>> crit procc trinket, because we stack the int in 4-5 sec to 10.
    btw did you considered the change of haste breakpoint through the 14% amp trinket?
    That's something I actually did forget. Thanks!

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    To be honest our weapons and such might need to lean towards more mastery... especially with 4pc.... Gaze of Arrogance looks like a solid staff.... I do believe there is a mastery main hand as well.

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    I know i'm out of subject but since when did the 4P change ?

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    Two weeks ago or so, i think.

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