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  1. #81
    Always funny reading how butthurt Old God fanboys are that the simple fact is.................Titans came, they saw, they conquered. Translation: Titans came back to Azeroth to find it infested with Old Gods to the point that killing the OGs would render Azeroth uninhabitable (reference persisting effects of Y'shaarj corruption despite being deaded), so the Titans instead of obliterating the planet (reference Algalon's description of Titan power capabilities) they subdued the OGs, which is far more difficult than outright vanquishing something.

    Why is it so hard to understand the Old Gods have no real PHYSICAL power relative to the other colossal powers in the universe. The OGs' power takes the form of corruption. They can seemingly create life (Faceless Ones, etc.) and curse life onto lifeless constructs (Curse of Flesh). Going toe-to-toe in a fist fight is not their style nor their forte.

    Lastly, Sargeras has never once in all of millenia been to Azeroth (with the Titans nor without them). And as of his current demonic titan state, he literally has a fel aura that turns everything within miles of him to ash - not very fun times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    That is a quote from wowwiki so to me that seems like it took the whole Pantheon to subdue the old gods.

    But you were right about Sargeras not being there when they did imprison them, my apologies.
    They subdue the old gods because they want to spare Azeroth, not because they can't just kill them in a heartbeat as you would know if you actually bothered to read what I post... anyway I am right you are wrong. GG!

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowygoodness View Post
    Always funny reading how butthurt Old God fanboys are that the simple fact is.................Titans came, they saw, they conquered. Translation: Titans came back to Azeroth to find it infested with Old Gods to the point that killing the OGs would render Azeroth uninhabitable (reference persisting effects of Y'shaarj corruption despite being deaded), so the Titans instead of obliterating the planet (reference Algalon's description of Titan power capabilities) they subdued the OGs, which is far more difficult than outright vanquishing something.

    Why is it so hard to understand the Old Gods have no real PHYSICAL power relative to the other colossal powers in the universe. The OGs' power takes the form of corruption. They can seemingly create life (Faceless Ones, etc.) and curse life onto lifeless constructs (Curse of Flesh). Going toe-to-toe in a fist fight is not their style nor their forte.

    Lastly, Sargeras has never once in all of millenia been to Azeroth (with the Titans nor without them). And as of his current demonic titan state, he literally has a fel aura that turns everything within miles of him to ash - not very fun times.
    So Sargeras can turn everything near him into ash, yet an orc managed to get close enough to stab him in the leg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiidan View Post
    Sargeras and the burning legion wants to undo and remake the whole of the universe, Sargeras ultimate vision is that everything in the universe can be corrupted and is inherritedly build in a flaved way in it's core.

    From what doom lord Kazzak says: "All life must be eradicated!" "The universe will be remade." "All mortals will perish!"
    What does that have to do with the Legion's numbers?
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    So Sargeras can turn everything near him into ash, yet an orc managed to get close enough to stab him in the leg?
    Perhaps to be taken seriously you should not purposely omit key information such as hmmmm idk the magically-imbued weapon the orc was wielding for just the occasion? It wasn't like he was just some random orc who walked up to Sargy during a morning stroll.
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  7. #87
    The Old Gods would fight the Burning Legion. And then, to quote the tagline from Alien vs. Predator, "whoever wins, we lose."

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalltusk View Post
    Hmm good issue about the pantheon, shame it doesnt say about how many per individual old god.
    Dude, the titans CREATE PLANETS OUT IN SPACE! They don't need to stand on a rock to do this shit they just create stuff, or raze stuff and remake it as they see fit. This is the scope of their power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    What does that have to do with the Legion's numbers?
    Well, you said Sargeras is looking to create an army, I said he is not, he is corrupting and using species he se fit to help him acive the goal of RAZING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND OBLITERATE ALL LIFE. His Ultimate goal is to KILL ALL, not CREATE an army....

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    if sargeras had entered the portal whole and whole. Everyone within a few miles would have been incinerated by his presence cept for the legion, Azhara and a few highborne (a large proportion would have been killed anyway)

    While he was started to absorb the well, he would simultaneously wipe out the eternals, dragonflight and the various races who had banded together.

    particular individuals would be recruited or currupted and recruited, certain races deemed to have potential would be currepted and turned into foot soldiers etc based on their profficiencies. Azhara would join the ranks of archimonde and Kiljaedon. swaying entire worlds to love her into damnation (with no shits given over the highborne on the legions side who were obliterated).

    The legion would then move on with azeroth the footnote they thought it would be when they first sensed it. Who knows if the old gods would hide and pop up later after the legion leave or enter a massive war of attrition with the legion. mostly likely the latter if the legion occupy the planets they attack. that fight would go on forever. Specially as its hinted that theres more old gods out there in the universe.

    Possibly down the line they would discover draenor and wipe the dreanai off the face of existence after their defeat..eventually

    Then find the naaru and wipe them out.

    Then enter a war against the Titans directly and wipe them out.

    Then remold the universe in his Image.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiidan View Post
    Dude, the titans CREATE PLANETS OUT IN SPACE! They don't need to stand on a rock to do this shit they just create stuff, or raze stuff and remake it as they see fit. This is the scope of their power.
    They actually don't create planets; they modify existing worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowygoodness View Post
    Perhaps to be taken seriously you should not purposely omit key information such as hmmmm idk the magically-imbued weapon the orc was wielding for just the occasion? It wasn't like he was just some random orc who walked up to Sargy during a morning stroll.
    So, Malfurion can just create a weapon that can stop the universes apparent strongest being, from using his magic on people.

    why aint he making more of these weapons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    They actually don't create planets; they modify existing worlds.

    Read the qoutes I wrote that is made by Algalon the observer... They raze entire planatary systems in less than a heartbeat, the failsafe mechanisms on Azeroth are made to re-originate the whole planet, destroy it all and build it anew... Yes the titans create order in the universe by creating planets as they see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    So, Malfurion can just create a weapon that can stop the universes apparent strongest being, from using his magic on people.

    why aint he making more of these weapons?
    You're kinda proving my point. Obviously, he's not making more, b/c it's either just not something that can be mass produced or replicated. Don't insult the power of nature (the magic Malf uses) and its capabilities in WoW. It was literally nature itself, not any living hero, that destroyed Archimonde. So it's not exactly beyond the scope of reason for a weapon imbued with such magics to be able to at the very least repel Sargeras' aura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiidan View Post
    Well, you said Sargeras is looking to create an army, I said he is not, he is corrupting and using species he se fit to help him acive the goal of RAZING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND OBLITERATE ALL LIFE. His Ultimate goal is to KILL ALL, not CREATE an army....
    You completely missed my point. If he had an infinite demon army (which he doesn't as I cited), he wouldn't be constantly searching for an army (which he is). Sargeras recruited the eredar to bolster his army. Kil'jaeden's standing order from Sargeras was to find a mortal army. What Sargeras plans to do with that army doesn't change the fact that he is seeking to build a larger one.
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    @Aquamonkey @Aiidan: You're both right. Creating an army is "the means" to Sargeras' overall plan, and destroying all life is "the end" of his plan, b/c in Sargeras' warped sense of order he sees a universe devoid of life as absolute order devoid of chaos. That's probably the penultimate reason I like him so much, b/c in a twisted way he's still following his main directive; he just chose a different path to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowygoodness View Post
    @Aquamonkey @Aiidan: You're both right. Creating an army is "the means" to Sargeras' overall plan, and destroying all life is "the end" of his plan, b/c in Sargeras' warped sense of order he sees a universe devoid of life as absolute order devoid of chaos. That's probably the penultimate reason I like him so much, b/c in a twisted way he's still following his main directive; he just chose a different path to get there.
    This man has the right of it. Well done!

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    So, Malfurion can just create a weapon that can stop the universes apparent strongest being, from using his magic on people. why aint he making more of these weapons?
    Malfurion's Axe could stop nothing, it wasnt even hyped that much to begin with, just a magical wood axe with the density and sharpness of diamond, it was Brox's feat to make it slightly scratch Sargeras.

    Who know what kind of elementium/diamond hybrid, naaru infused shit we'll be using against him, certainly seems more than capable to harm him.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    You completely missed my point. If he had an infinite demon army (which he doesn't as I cited), he wouldn't be constantly searching for an army (which he is). Sargeras recruited the eredar to bolster his army (maybe due to being defeated on Azeroth). Kil'jaeden's standing order from Sargeras was to find a mortal army. What Sargeras plans to do with that army doesn't change the fact that he is seeking to build a larger one.
    The eredar were in the army prior to him being defeated on Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiidan View Post
    Dude, the titans CREATE PLANETS OUT IN SPACE! They don't need to stand on a rock to do this shit they just create stuff, or raze stuff and remake it as they see fit. This is the scope of their power.

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    Well, you said Sargeras is looking to create an army, I said he is not, he is corrupting and using species he se fit to help him acive the goal of RAZING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND OBLITERATE ALL LIFE. His Ultimate goal is to KILL ALL, not CREATE an army....
    I was talking about an old god vs titan and how many if it took more than one to beat an old god. Creating planets has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    So, Malfurion can just create a weapon that can stop the universes apparent strongest being, from using his magic on people.

    why aint he making more of these weapons?
    Quote Originally Posted by Veliane View Post
    Malfurion's Axe could stop nothing, it wasnt even hyped that much to begin with, just a magical wood axe with the density and sharpness of diamond, it was Brox's feat to make it slightly scratch Sargeras.

    Who know what kind of elementium/diamond hybrid, naaru infused shit we'll be using against him, certainly seems more than capable to harm him.
    And Malfurion didn't create the axe himself. Cenarius, a demigod, guided him during the crafting process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalltusk View Post
    The eredar were in the army prior to him being defeated on Azeroth.
    Yea, actually thinking back on the timeline, the eredar were inducted 25,000 years ago and the WotA happened 10,000 years ago. I just didn't remember any eredar being present during the WotA, it was all handled by Mannoroth.
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    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

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