For all the talk of that's what Warcraft is about, it sure seems like it's several races from both factions constantly having to 'save the universe' from the big bad. Mists was the first expansion where that took a side seat to the actual conflict and in the end it leads up to Alliance and Horde working together again.
To even think that this has been about Orcs vs. Humans after WC3 is naive at best, completely ignorant at worst.
We've been too busy saving World Trees, Dealing with extraterrestrial demons, and generally all sorts of stuff that could blow up creation (sunwells, lich kings, deathwings, etcs)
Like people do remember that WC3 had those campaigns for all the races right? The story was certainly more than orcs vs humans.
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it will be Thrall!
Garrosh is at 1%
Graysue Magically comes back from being knocked unconscious and gets the killing blow on Garrosh with doomhammer.
He thanks looks at the raid and says thank you heroes but Orc Jesus got's this.
Chirs Metz than retakes the mandle of war chief and the a the alliance army withdraws.
Voljinn says why did they just withdraw mon?
Graysue the Chris metz avatar known as Thrall replies because they know I have plot armor
Still a better love story than twilight
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You take two of the three societies that were around 10-12,000 years ago when there was a single continent and you don't make any lore around that so you can focus wholly on the humans and how they're stronger, wiser, and better than everyone. Sorry, but I'm in agreement with getting away from WoW being focused solely on orcs and humans.
......unless we're going to get some human based badassery re-founding the Silver Hand and having an actual force of knights in the Alliance again. Then I'm totally on board for that.
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"There is good and evil in this world; we must find the black and white in the gray."
WoW Classic: Fueled by Horde PvP superiority over puny Alliance talks throughout every forum and every server. The conflict in most zones was between the Orcs and the Humans because of a deep rooted hate throughout the first and second wars.
Dark Portal: Hey lets go back to where the ORCS HOMEWORLD WAS, most of the enemies were fel orcs, and a majority of the alliance outposts that were based around conflict was Humans going at the Horde aka the Orcs.
WOTLK: Okay, it was the Undead that did some classy shit and caused a raid of the Undercity, but at the forefront of it at the end was Thrall vs Varian, which Jaina (another human) stopped. The deepest moments for both Horde and Alliance in ICC was between Saurfang and Varian. The TOC was a conflict essentially between Garrosh challenging the Alliance whihc was BASICALLY orcs vs humans.
Cataclysm: GOD IM SO TIRED OF TYPIN THIS SHIT, If you don't think it's orcs vs humans just because it isn't spelled out for you, iono what to tell you.
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Blood elves have no leadership qualities, I don't see why anyone would promote them. Their presence and importance in the Horde's lore is also flimsy.
Goblins are Garrosh ass-kissers they can all go to hell.
Pandaren are generally hypocritical retards.
If this was Warcraft 4, Forsaken would have probably broken off by now, at any rate, they're not gonna be the new leaders.
Vol'Jin actively fought Garrosh, and so did the Tauren. So if it's not Thrall, the leadership will come from these guys.
Personally, I'm caught between Tauren and Trolls. Trolls might produce some Zul'Jin type Horde, which is just way too sexy.
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(Patch 5.1, Anduin ALMOST FUCKING DYING TO GARROSH, etc).
It's not about Orcs vs Humans, but it's always about Alliance vs Horde on some level.
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It goes like this:
-Evil thing shows up to destroy all life
-Both sides either alone or together fight it off
-Petty squabbling and land swaps resume.
That's pretty much it. Orcs vs. Humans didn't create a Lich King, didn't make a Deathwing, didn't sunder the world, didn't make the maelstrom, didn't make Ragnaros, most certainly 100% didn't bring the biggest bad of all bads looking for Azeroth. That honor belongs to the Elves.
So please tell me how any rational person could think we've been playing Warcraft: Orcs vs Human 7 this whole time.
I think the only acceptable candidates are from the Orcs, Darkspear and Tauren, that seems like a no brainer.
As for all this it has to be an Orc business, I have mixed feelings. While I understand the need for there to always be an Orcish "Warchief", it feels to me at least, that to have another Orcish warchief that is the sole leader of the Horde as we know it so soon after one that has just raised hell would cause too much distrust, yes the orcs should still have a leader, but should his word be the ultimate word of all of the Horde's actions after what we have seen? I don't believe it should.
I agree that the core of the game is Orcs vs Humans, but as time goes on, and more races are added, we're straying further and further from that, more races are joining our factions, and as time goes on there has to hit a point where there are more of those races combined than there are Orcs.
Whoever it is, I can forsee him/her having alot less power than Garrosh had, surely these events have taught us that one person with that much power is not a good idea.