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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven2011 View Post
    Oh but there is room for Demon Hunter class
    There isn't. Blizzard is purposely moving the Demon Hunter concept into the Warlock class. They've been doing that since the end of TBC.

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    Then what is purpose of bringing illidan back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven2011 View Post
    Then what is purpose of bringing illidan back
    Its not to bring Demon Hunters into the game. Illidan's theme has also been pushed into the Warlock class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven2011 View Post
    Then what is purpose of bringing illidan back
    Dont listen to teriz, he tends to talk like he knows what hes talking about.

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    A handful of people nut-busting about it on various forums does not equal popularity, and popularity does not equal good design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukhoi View Post
    Dont listen to teriz, he tends to talk like he knows what hes talking about.
    I no I no it's fun to mess with him I kinda no where blizz going with things they have plan I no demon hunters where thought to be hero class of wraith but later drop for the dk blizz knows when to add things and what to add

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    My read on it: they're not saying NO, NEVER! because they never say NO, NEVER!, after all they reserve the right to change their minds. Like GC says, maybe some designer will come up with such a kickass idea they'll be like "fuck yes, let's do that" in the future. But they're not sold on it at the moment.

    Similar non-committal response on DHs, just pointing out the design space concerns we're already aware of. Doesn't mean no, doesn't mean yes.

    My guess is no new class next expansion, I don't think they like the balance issues of throwing new classes at the game all the time. The one after - maybe.

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    TBH, my hopes is that since the whole talent system revamp, they would be able to crunch out new playable class concepts instead of being held up by design. While the talents added a lot of customization and flavour, they were hella hard to balance. The main problems with balancing right now would probably stem from PVP. I think they have PVE fairly under control, there's not really much sway in terms of what class can do more or less damage in any given situation, it's all very predictable.
    I think the logic went:

    -Want talents to be meaningful, fun and sexy and not just +1% spell power anymore.
    -Okay put cool powerful talents in the new trees.
    -But wait if these talents are rotational DPS/major CDs there will always be one right choice for all situations -> cookie cutters.
    -Okay we make most talent tiers non-DPS related, or DPS-situational.
    -What does that leave? Mobility, CC, utility, heals.
    -Sweet that works great for PVE.
    -But guys doesn't adding all that mobility, CC, utility and heals have a serious effect on PVP?
    -Shut up, PVP guy!
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    I also look in the steam punk thing and that could deal with Titan tho it was delay blizzcon was plan before the delay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    My read on it: they're not saying NO, NEVER! because they never say NO, NEVER!, after all they reserve the right to change their minds. Like GC says, maybe some designer will come up with such a kickass idea they'll be like "fuck yes, let's do that" in the future. But they're not sold on it at the moment.

    Similar non-committal response on DHs, just pointing out the design space concerns we're already aware of. Doesn't mean no, doesn't mean yes.

    My guess is no new class next expansion, I don't think they like the balance issues of throwing new classes at the game all the time. The one after - maybe.
    As for a class next expansion, I admit it would be surprising, but at the same time, it would also make sense for a couple of reasons;

    1.Blizzard has been working on remodeled vanilla models.
    2. They've introduced a new race two expansions in a row, and frankly the lore on all three of them has been lacking.
    3. Lack of any good racial candidates.

    If there's not going to be new races, then we're more than likely going to get a new class. If its a new class, then its more than likely going to be the Tinker class.

    Let's face it; Its the only class concept that not only has a history in the Warcraft universe, but it also doesn't overlap with any existing classes. Dragonsworn, Dark Rangers, Demon Hunter, and Battle Mage concepts all overlap with existing classes in spectacular fashion. Blizzard wants its classes to be as unique and different from one another as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    As for a class next expansion, I admit it would be surprising, but at the same time, it would also make sense for a couple of reasons;

    1.Blizzard has been working on remodeled vanilla models.
    2. They've introduced a new race two expansions in a row, and frankly the lore on all three of them has been lacking.
    3. Lack of any good racial candidates.

    If there's not going to be new races, then we're more than likely going to get a new class. If its a new class, then its more than likely going to be the Tinker class.

    Let's face it; Its the only class concept that not only has a history in the Warcraft universe, but it also doesn't overlap with any existing classes. Dragonsworn, Dark Rangers, Demon Hunter, and Battle Mage concepts all overlap with existing classes in spectacular fashion. Blizzard wants its classes to be as unique and different from one another as possible.

    I got to call Bullshit.....on the bold. No one knows what the next class is most likely to be but Blizzard. As for your Tinker they said MAYBE someday they never said TINKER is the next class or even hinted at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by But I Hate You All View Post
    I got to call Bullshit.....on the bold. No one knows what the next class is most likely to be but Blizzard. As for your Tinker they said MAYBE someday they never said TINKER is the next class or even hinted at it.
    Then find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Then find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes.
    If they make demon hunters wear mail, that's about all I can think of, but even that doesn't make as much sense as tinker. I didn't know what to make of Blizzard's statement on Tinkers, it's not like they would come out and admit to us that they were working on one if they were, I'm not saying it will happen but to me it definitely fits in best out of all archetypes I can think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Then find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes.
    There's always going to be class overlap. Demon hunter, ranger, dragonsworn, timewalker. All have a chance, and are all better than tinker.

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    A handful of people nut-busting about it on various forums does not equal popularity, and popularity does not equal good design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukhoi View Post
    There's always going to be class overlap. Demon hunter, ranger, dragonsworn, timewalker. All have a chance, and are all better than tinker.
    Better? why? that sounds like an opinion to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellerix View Post
    Better? why? that sounds like an opinion to me.
    This thread is all opinions. Everything teriz says is an opinion, he just refuses to admit it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simulatio View Post
    A handful of people nut-busting about it on various forums does not equal popularity, and popularity does not equal good design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Then find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes.
    Don't need too. GC own words MAYBE someday. It's done no matter how hard you try to argue and debate how your dream of tinker/tech class is next it's not. I do not know what The next class blizzard has planed but I do know they said MAYBE someday to tinkers. So all that bullshit of find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes is just YOUR OPINION WHICH YOU TEND TO THINK IS FACT. Lets face it You do not work for blizzard your not a Blizzard dev but one said to your Tinker wet dream MAYBE someday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by But I Hate You All View Post
    Don't need too. GC own words MAYBE someday. It's done no matter how hard you try to argue and debate how your dream of tinker/tech class is next it's not. I do not know what The next class blizzard has planed but I do know they said MAYBE someday to tinkers. So all that bullshit of find another class concept that is on equal footing. No class overlap, a history within the Warcraft universe, and a similar history to the other WoW classes is just YOUR OPINION WHICH YOU TEND TO THINK IS FACT. Lets face it You do not work for blizzard your not a Blizzard dev but one said to your Tinker wet dream MAYBE someday!
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Tinker is the next class. But would Blizzard really have addmited to us that they were working on a tinker if they were? ofcourse not, they'd either outright deny it, or say something like "Maybe some day".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukhoi View Post
    There's always going to be class overlap. Demon hunter, ranger, dragonsworn, timewalker. All have a chance, and are all better than tinker.
    It's pretty obvious that they don't. Demon Hunters are absorbed into Warlocks. Rangers are Hunters. Dragonsworn are simply various heroes who swear to dragons.

    Tinkers? No such issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellerix View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Tinker is the next class. But would Blizzard really have addmited to us that they were working on a tinker if they were? ofcourse not, they'd either outright deny it, or say something like "Maybe some day".

    Most likely they would ignore the question or not give a huge broad answer like he did with DH answered it with a question. GC pretty much said it would be too silly depends on how it is put in game MAYBE someday one of the devs will come up with a epic development for it and they will be like oh fuck ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by But I Hate You All View Post
    Most likely they would ignore the question or not give a huge broad answer like he did with DH answered it with a question. GC pretty much said it would be too silly depends on how it is put in game MAYBE someday one of the devs will come up with a epic development for it and they will be like oh fuck ya.
    Again, we can never really trust what Blizzard says, they've done crazier stuff before. Still, I agree, it's very unlikely, but we can never know for sure ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    It's pretty obvious that they don't. Demon Hunters are absorbed into Warlocks. Rangers are Hunters. Dragonsworn are simply various heroes who swear to dragons.

    Tinkers? No such issue.
    Well right here

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post22405600

    it was explained to you why Tinkers wont be next.



    Also a huge issue is you seem to think your OPINION IS FACT

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