View Poll Results: what do you think of russia sending in warships?

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  • good move to save civilians

    65 35.71%
  • bad move because it could lead to a conflict on accident

    22 12.09%
  • russia wants to flex its muscles, maybe even start a small skirmish with the US

    66 36.26%
  • other

    29 15.93%
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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Russia wants to show that they are still a potent world power.
    Well good, with all this depressing news about Syria we could all use a laugh.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russ...-growth-annual

    5 consecutive quarters of slowdown

    1.6% in Q1, 1.2% in Q2

    hardly booming
    That's called "consolidation" and every economy does it. It's a period that helps prevent an economy from growing too fast and imploding. Like we did.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    That's called "consolidation" and every economy does it. It's a period that helps prevent an economy from growing too fast and imploding. Like we did.
    Russia's GDP growth rate was 3.4% last year. Was that part of their "consolidation" too?


    Improving growth prospects will be difficult with further increases in oil prices unlikely, capacity utilization similar to pre-crisis peaks, unemployment at a record low, an aging and shrinking workforce and declining oil production in the absence of large investments and new discoveries.
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    Russia's GDP growth rate was 3.4% last year. Was that part of their "consolidation" too?
    What's unhealthy about 3.4% in a recession?

    Kaspar Richter
    World Bank Lead Economist for Russia
    As someone who deals with economic forecasts on a regular basis, I find that economists for the World Bank have an accuracy rate somewhere around Meteorologists. Russia has far more resources than just oil. Don't they span like 13 time zones?

    Yes, the aging workforce is a problem. They're working on combating that... however brutal the tactics may be. That, however, is the only true problem facing them.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    What's unhealthy about 3.4% in a recession?
    Its not unhealthy but it could hardly be described as booming. The US had a 2.8% growth the same year.

    Russia has far more resources than just oil. Don't they span like 13 time zones?

    Yes, the aging workforce is a problem. They're working on combating that... however brutal the tactics may be. That, however, is the only true problem facing them.
    They're also a major gas exporter; but as the US begins gas exports that won't be safe either.

  6. #46
    To clarify, Russia has maintained atleast 4 warships in the area. This is nothing new.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    Nuke's only power is in their deterrence



    I have serious doubts russia will be able to check the rampant corruption in their defense sector.

    And russia does not and will not have the economy to be a superpower.

    LOL....

    I think this guy has been watching to many propaganda movies from the 50s. Stupid people like this really amaze me.

    Have any of you actually seen the technological advances that Russia has? Their armor outclasses ours, their foot soldiers are on an equal footing to ours, they have absolutely MASSIVE oil reserves, just because they don't need to go attack other smaller countries like Iraq for the oil doesn't mean they're not a superpower.

    We Americans are just brainwashed to think we're the "best", I'll tell you this, I do not want to see a war where Russia and the US are facing off. Would probably mean the end of the world as we know it.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by arnoldr45 View Post
    LOL....

    I think this guy has been watching to many propaganda movies from the 50s. Stupid people like this really amaze me.

    Have any of you actually seen the technological advances that Russia has? Their armor outclasses ours, their foot soldiers are on an equal footing to ours, they have absolutely MASSIVE oil reserves, just because they don't need to go attack other smaller countries like Iraq for the oil doesn't mean they're not a superpower.

    We Americans are just brainwashed to think we're the "best", I'll tell you this, I do not want to see a war where Russia and the US are facing off. Would probably mean the end of the world as we know it.
    Please, Russia's military modernization is a response to its performance in georgia which exposed glaring deficiencies

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    fixt

    /10

    As amusing as you might think it is, Russia still is a potent world power. They have tons of nukes and if the US and Russia went to war then it would be on a cataclysmic magnitude. On the other hand, if Russia and the US had similar interest and help each other they could do whatever they would please with the world.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by steale View Post
    To be fair though, the US spends as much on their annual defense budget as the top 25 or some such number's budgets combined. If budget is any indicator, an opponent who is a technological match should not exist.
    A large chunk of US annual budget goes into salaries / benefits / etc. R&D is barely 10% of the budget. More than other nations, yes, but not much more.

  11. #51
    The only reason why Russia is still brought up in conversations about "superpowers" is because the USSR wasn't that long ago and the have veto power at the UN. Everyone knows the real superpower of the world doesn't care about another countries veto powers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero412 View Post
    As amusing as you might think it is, Russia still is a potent world power. They have tons of nukes and if the US and Russia went to war then it would be on a cataclysmic magnitude. On the other hand, if Russia and the US had similar interest and help each other they could do whatever they would please with the world.
    I trully believe Russia and the US have always been the closest of allies, even during the cold war. Two powers controlling the majority of the northern hemisphere on this small planet, two wholly different socio-political experimets lasting several decades, which in the end resulted in two similar cultures idolizing similar ideologies. The small differences (same-sex, etc) are inconsequential.

    In this fast-paced globalized world, their shared goals mirror each other. We should not fear one or the other, but question the mirror showing us the same person in reverse. As time passes, will we actually know the difference.

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    Russia was never a world power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    fixt

    /10
    refixt

    As amusing as you might think it is, Russia still is a potent world power. They have tons of nukes and if the US and Russia went to war then it would be on a cataclysmic magnitude.
    Having nukes doesn't make you a world power. It just means you have the potential to do something retarded.
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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    by that metric France, UK, Pakistan, India, China, NK, and Israel are all world powers
    You realize that Israel has arguably the second strongest/technologically advanced military in the world, right?
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  15. #55
    If they would just kill assad all this will be over. They never make the right moves. Serves both sides right if something happens. Just a bunch of idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliph View Post
    If they would just kill assad all this will be over. They never make the right moves. Serves both sides right if something happens. Just a bunch of idiots.
    Yeah, and who takes over? Another Asaad-supporter now desperate and fearful? Or someone from the Al-qaeda backed rebels?
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by arnoldr45 View Post
    Have any of you actually seen the technological advances that Russia has? Their armor outclasses ours, their foot soldiers are on an equal footing to ours, they have absolutely MASSIVE oil reserves, just because they don't need to go attack other smaller countries like Iraq for the oil doesn't mean they're not a superpower.
    Russian energy pipe line gets blown on up on a yearly basis, because areas outside major cities are so bad, they are willing to do it for work. Feel free to read up how small towns outside capital cities are doing in the winter. Two weeks of especially harsh winter claimed 190 lives in 2 weeks last year.

    Russian military is hugely underfunded and had their issues with Chechnya.

    Quote Originally Posted by arnoldr45 View Post
    We Americans are just brainwashed to think we're the "best", I'll tell you this, I do not want to see a war where Russia and the US are facing off. Would probably mean the end of the world as we know it.
    We are better than Russia, if you don't think so, their immigration policy is very welcoming to US defectors. Might even appear with Putin on TV, saying how much nicer it is.

    You thought our elections were bad, read up on Kasparov running against Putin. You think our journalism is bad, check out how many Russian journalist were murdered during Putin's run, specifically Anna Politkovskaya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Russian energy pipe line gets blown on up on a yearly basis, because areas outside major cities are so bad, they are willing to do it for work. Feel free to read up how small towns outside capital cities are doing in the winter. Two weeks of especially harsh winter claimed 190 lives in 2 weeks last year.

    Russian military is hugely underfunded and had their issues with Chechnya.



    We are better than Russia, if you don't think so, their immigration policy is very welcoming to US defectors. Might even appear with Putin on TV, saying how much nicer it is.

    You thought our elections were bad, read up on Kasparov running against Putin. You think our journalism is bad, check out how many Russian journalist were murdered during Putin's run, specifically Anna Politkovskaya.
    I don't think it would be smart to start a war with the US with it's current armaments. It would be too devastating.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero412 View Post
    As amusing as you might think it is, Russia still is a potent world power. They have tons of nukes and if the US and Russia went to war then it would be on a cataclysmic magnitude. On the other hand, if Russia and the US had similar interest and help each other they could do whatever they would please with the world.
    Ukraine had the third largest amount of nukes in the world, before they chose to get rid of them. It only needs one, but Russia lost more nukes than Brittain and China had combined, when Ukraine split off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    I don't think it would be smart to start a war with the US with it's current armaments. It would be too devastating.
    This isn't about war. It's a dick measuring contest. I'm just glad the black guy is on our side...
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