Originally Posted by
Leitka
No one is referring to the raid boss.
Ordos has an associated vendor. That vendor sells an item to flag yourself for pvp against *both* factions while on the Isle for 2500 Timeless Coins. Killing people under the effects of this item gives a second currency, Bloody Coins. Bloody Coins are useful for buying a variety of other items from the same vendor, most notably a mount (a dark, ashy Mushan) and an item to transform yourself into a Yaungol, flagging yourself for pvp against both factions in any zone.
It's not a meaningful place for competitive pvp, no, and none of the items are relevant to that. It is, however, a casual world pvp hub (and was intended as such) with associated vanity rewards. Those same rewards, gained through PvP (and PvP alone; there is no way to get Bloody Coins other than killing players), are much easier to obtain with heroic raiding gear due to the associated world PvP gear imbalances.
Normally, I *am* on the side of "who cares?" in regards to world pvp, because it is what it is. In this case, we have a zone with an intended PvP mechanic being detrimentally affected by the gear discrepancy. Thus, the usual "world pvp doesn't matter" responses are less valid, because those responses tend to stem from the lack of rewards or incentives towards that form of PvP. Those rewards do exist here.
To better put it into perspective, it's like if a world pvp hub like Wintergrasp existed in the present state of the game, but without gear-scaling. Yes, pve gear was better than pvp gear in certain ways in Wrath, but the discrepancy was much smaller. The game has also changed a lot since then, and there would likely be quite an outcry against pve gear in the zone, had scaling been as out-of-proportion in Wrath as it is in MoP.
I'd also like to stress that I make these comments as a former hardcore raider. I'm no longer able to dedicate the same time to it that I used to, but I do still have a decent set of pve gear, and I do use that set of gear while on Timeless Isle. I can't argue it's fair when I kill someone in my opening Fists of Fury cast, which is quite common. I also cannot argue that it doesn't matter, as is usually the case with my comments on world pvp, because there are rewards for world pvp in this content.