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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    Smartass comments that try to be funny with nothing to back them up! Hooray! You've accomplished nothing!

    I work in the medical field, at institutions that range in size from small county hospitals up to large, level 1 trauma centers like Vanderbilt in Nashville, TN, and I have YET to meet anyone in the health care field who thinks Obamacare is a good idea. It's been a pretty unanimous decision amongst the people who know healthcare best that it was a bad idea from the start. I couldn't give two shits whether you believe me or not....you have neither the experience, training, or knowledge that I do of the healthcare field. Ignore me all you want. I'm just saying that you will all soon realize how bad Obamacare really is. The proof will be here before you know it.

    Enjoy.
    Ok, I'm ready for your proof now. I'll wait until you provide it. Still waiting. Stiiiiill waiting.
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    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    I work in the medical field, at institutions that range in size from small county hospitals up to large, level 1 trauma centers like Vanderbilt in Nashville, TN, and I have YET to meet anyone in the health care field who thinks Obamacare is a good idea. It's been a pretty unanimous decision amongst the people who know healthcare best that it was a bad idea from the start. I couldn't give two shits whether you believe me or not....
    My anecdotal evidence cancels out your anecdotal evidence. Wheeeeeeee!

    you have neither the experience, training, or knowledge that I do of the healthcare field.
    You have absolutely no clue whether or not that's true. At least I gave you the courtesy of asking.
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    Anyone else think the Healthcare Marketplace should have a 404 error message page that says nothing but:

    PAGE NOT FOUND : THANKS OBAMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rukentuts View Post
    anyone else think the healthcare marketplace should have a 404 error message page that says nothing but:

    Page not found : Thanks obama.
    Obbaaammmaaaaaa!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Anyone else think the Healthcare Marketplace should have a 404 error message page that says nothing but:

    PAGE NOT FOUND : THANKS OBAMA.
    So... I might have to make that my companies default 404 page.
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    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Anyone else think the Healthcare Marketplace should have a 404 error message page that says nothing but:

    PAGE NOT FOUND : THANKS OBAMA.
    I would give one of my kidneys to see that. Well...maybe a half of one.


    Ok really none, but I'd love to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I would give one of my kidneys to see that. Well...maybe a half of one.


    Ok really none, but I'd love to see that.
    With Obamacare, the Death Panels will MAKE you give up your kidneys! TO MUSLIM TERRORIST IMMIGRANTS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Your latest couple of replies to me have made it sound like I'm supporting the GOP in this. Which couldn't be further from the truth.
    My mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts
    Anyone else think the Healthcare Marketplace should have a 404 error message page that says nothing but:

    PAGE NOT FOUND : THANKS OBAMA.
    Yes please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Screw the polls! It's all Obama's fault! Even though he hasn't even received a bill to sign because Congress is deadlocked! But screw that too! It's Obama's fault!

    Thanks Obama!
    Please show me all your non biased polls that show the majority of Americans support ACA, or in fact, just show me any proof anyone actually needs/wants this form of health care. All it does is feed insurance companies and the treasury coffers through finds... so you either pay the IRS a "tax" , even though its more like a fine, and therefor under any rational Supreme Court would have been ruled unconstitutional, or you pay outrageous prices to insurance companies. Great health care plan! right? Anyways, its all a moot point now, the government is shut down, and the longer it stays this way the more damage the Democrats will take, their reputation will turn to shit as it should and we can finally have a government for the people, not for their corporate interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    With Obamacare, the Death Panels will MAKE you give up your kidneys! TO MUSLIM TERRORIST IMMIGRANTS!
    I will only agree to this is the terrorists are socialist, communist, and marxist. All at the same time.
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    Heathcare.gov insurance plans now cover transfusions of blended dead fetuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedonicus View Post
    Please show me all your non biased polls that show the majority of Americans support ACA, or in fact, just show me any proof anyone actually needs/wants this form of health care.
    First you have to show me where that's what I said. Cause I said polls show more people will blame the GOP rather than Dems for the shutdown.

    Anyways, its all a moot point now, the government is shut down, and the longer it stays this way the more damage the Democrats will take, their reputation will turn to shit as it should and we can finally have a government for the people, not for their corporate interests.
    This must be opposite day. It has to be. That is the only way this could possibly be something someone would actually believe.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedonicus View Post
    Please show me all your non biased polls that show the majority of Americans support ACA, or in fact, just show me any proof anyone actually needs/wants this form of health care. All it does is feed insurance companies and the treasury coffers through finds... so you either pay the IRS a "tax" , even though its more like a fine, and therefor under any rational Supreme Court would have been ruled unconstitutional, or you pay outrageous prices to insurance companies. Great health care plan! right? Anyways, its all a moot point now, the government is shut down, and the longer it stays this way the more damage the Democrats will take, their reputation will turn to shit as it should and we can finally have a government for the people, not for their corporate interests.
    And yet, even though the Government is shut down, Obamacare registration continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I will only agree to this is the terrorists are socialist, communist, and marxist. All at the same time.
    MUSLIM LIBRUHL SOCIALIST COMMUNIST ATHIEST JEWISH MARXIST STALIN-LOVING TERRORISTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedonicus View Post
    Anyways, its all a moot point now, the government is shut down, and the longer it stays this way the more damage the Democrats will take, their reputation will turn to shit as it should and we can finally have a government for the people, not for their corporate interests.
    You do realize that polling shows the opposite, right? That more people will blame the GOP for a shutdown than Democrats or Obama. Hell, the fight going on in the House isn't even Democrat versus Republican; it's Tea Bagger Republicans versus marginally more sane Republicans.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    And yet, even though the Government is shut down, Obamacare registration continues.
    I suppose all those people signing up will feel mighty stupid when the law is finally overturned in 2016 once Obama is gone and the Republican party regains control of the Senate and the White House.

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    Not to be hating, but who banned zephyr?
    He might be refusing to provide sources and/or be generally abit trolly, but to ban him in the middle of a political argument seems like bad manners.

    Also from a european PoV: let the fighting continue *popcorn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedonicus View Post
    I suppose all those people signing up will feel mighty stupid when the law is finally overturned in 2016 once Obama is gone and the Republican party regains control of the Senate and the White House.
    Why do you think the GOP is going to 'regain control' of the Senate and White House in 2016?
    Quote Originally Posted by xanzul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedonicus View Post
    Please show me all your non biased polls that show the majority of Americans support ACA, or in fact, just show me any proof anyone actually needs/wants this form of health care. All it does is feed insurance companies and the treasury coffers through finds... so you either pay the IRS a "tax" , even though its more like a fine, and therefor under any rational Supreme Court would have been ruled unconstitutional, or you pay outrageous prices to insurance companies. Great health care plan! right? Anyways, its all a moot point now, the government is shut down, and the longer it stays this way the more damage the Democrats will take, their reputation will turn to shit as it should and we can finally have a government for the people, not for their corporate interests.
    Quick rule of thumb, if you think a Supreme Court ruling is clearly unconstitutional, you don't understand the topic well enough to comment. Also the Dems will not take the hit. The last time the Republicans did this, they lost the presidency, lost seats in the House and went from thinking they may take the Senate to losing seats that were deemed safely Republican. The GOP and Tea Party is not nearly as large or strong as you seem to think they are. Watch it, the Republicans just lost the House in 2014.

  20. #1420
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    You obviously know none of the negative effects of Obamacare. If any of you had ANY inkling of what hospitals are doing now and what they continue to plan on doing once Obamacare hits full swing....
    They'll be able to presume that indigent ER patients are eligible for Medicaid and send the bill for their care to the state, instead of being stuck with it and passing on the cost to everyone else.

    Oh wait, that's a good thing for hospitals. What else is there...

    They'll have their Medicare reimbursements reduced if people return to hospitals within 30 days because of shoddy care, or if they contracted an infectious disease while staying at the hospital. That's bad for hospitals but, in fairness, its pretty good for patients who won't get the wrong kidney removed because of a chart mix-up or who won't get infected with MRSA because an orderly didn't wash their hands. It should be noted that hospital infections are the fourth leading cause of death in the United States.

    Did you have something else in mind?

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