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    Pentagon Spent $5 Billion on Weapons on the Eve of the Shutdown

    http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/...ons_on_weapons

    "The Pentagon pumped billions of dollars into contractors' bank accounts on the eve of the U.S. government's shutdown that saw 400,000 Defense Department employees furloughed.

    All told, the Pentagon awarded 94 contracts yesterday evening on its annual end-of-the-fiscal-year spending spree, spending more than five billion dollars on everything from robot submarines to Finnish hand grenades and a radar base mounted on an offshore oil platform. To put things in perspective, the Pentagon gave out only 14 contracts on September 3, the first workday of the month.

    Here are some of the more interesting purchases from Monday's dollar-dump.

    First up: the Defense Logistics Agency, the Pentagon branch that provides the armed services with things like fuel and spare parts. DLA has the honor of dropping the most cash in one contract last night with the $2.5 billion award it gave to aircraft engine-maker Pratt & Whitney for "various weapons system spare parts" used by the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Other highlights of DLA's last-minute spree included: $65 million for military helmets from BAE Systems, $24 million for "traveling wave tubes" to amplify radio signals from Thales, $17 million for liquid nitrogen, $15 million for helium and $19 million on cots. Yes, cots.

    Then came the Navy. The sea service spent hundreds of millions of dollars on 31 contracts buying everything from high-tech Finnish hand grenades to janitorial services.

    The service's biggest contracts were aimed at protecting ships from underwater attack. It gave Lockheed Martin a total of $139 million for sonar that allows Arleigh Burke-class destroyers to detect submarines and underwater mines. The Navy is also buying $40 million worth of hand grenades made in Vihtavuori, Finland that allow "users to choose the level of blast needed for the situation." Another $18 million is going to Phoenix International Holdings to operate a robot submarine called the Submarine Rescue Diving and Recompression System that can save people from disabled subs sitting up to 2,000 feet underwater.

    Not everything the Navy spent its end of year cash on was high tech, however. The service also gave $64 million contract to build a new fuel pier in Point Loma, Calif. It also added $9 million onto an existing $138 million contract for janitors at Navy medical centers in San Diego.

    The Air Force, traditionally DOD's biggest spender, was relatively restrained; it dished out only 17 contracts. One of the big themes of the Air Force's spend was spying. The service spent cash on everything from spy satellites to drones to planes that can be used to hunt drug dealers.

    The air service gave General Atomics $49 million to help France buy 16 MQ-9 Reaper drones. It also dished out $64 million to Lockheed for help operating spy satellites that are equipped with infrared cameras. Another $9 million went to URS Corp. for maintenance work on the Air National Guard's fleet of RC-26B spyplanes that help domestic law enforcement agencies catch drug dealers. Johns Hopkins University got $7 million from the Air Force Research Lab to develop software that can monitor raw communications signals and images collected around the world to detect significant "events" in real time. $8 million is going to a company called McCrone Associates to analyze particles in order to ensure someone is complying international ban on nuclear weapons tests. It doesn't say who that someone is or what type of particles are being analyzed.

    The service also spent $9 million on a new gym at the Air Force Academy that includes areas for CrossFit training, space for the academy's Triathlon Club and a "television studio."

    The Army only had a couple of relatively large contracts last night. The first was a $600 million award spread out between nine companies to develop alternative energy projects for the Army Corps of Engineers. The ground service also spent $200 million on for Interceptor-brand body armor made by Federal Prisons Industries for sales to other countries. In addition to these deals, the service gave out plenty of relatively small contracts -- and relatively is an important word here -- for everything from renovations on a reserve center in New Jersey to the purchase of 60 Mercedes Benz trucks for African countries.

    The Missile Defense Agency (MDA) gave Raytheon $230 million to support operation of the massive, sea-going X-band radar station that MDA uses to detect ballistic missile launches in Asia. MDA also gave Trex Enterprises $6 million for telescope mirrors that are impervious to changes in temperature.

    The Defense Threat Reduction Agency, the Pentagon's arm responsible for defeating threats posed by weapons of mass destruction, gave Johns Hopkins University $9 million for research into detecting "chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive material."

    Finally, U.S. Special Operations Command got in on the spending last night, giving out one $49 million contract to Boeing for development work on an upgraded version of the Army's MH-6 Little Bird chopper.

    This goes to show that even when the federal government is shutdown and the military has temporarily lost half its civilian workforce, the Pentagon can spend money like almost no one else. "

    Also link to contract list:
    http://www.defense.gov/contracts/con...ontractid=5144
    And take in mind these are only the things we, the general public,can see.

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    why dosent that suprize me?..

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    spend it or lose it, pretty standard across all types of organizations

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    Ahahah ill get angry about it once ill stop laughing hold on ahahahah

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    i wish i had 5 billion dollars :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coar View Post
    i wish i had 5 billion dollars :/
    just emagine what you can do with 5 Bill dollars...

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    You just need to add the soundtrack from "the sting" and a couple of "beagle boys" (https://www.google.ie/search?q=beagl...&bih=236&dpr=2) running around with bags of loot on the shoulder and its perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    spend it or lose it, pretty standard across all types of organizations
    This!

    It's not like a bunch of Generals ran into work on Monday and loaded up Goggle and started shopping. Most of these contracts would have occurred on Monday whether or not there was a shutdown simply due to the Use it or Lose it accounting system. Infact I'd be surprised if they had the flexibility to last minute divert funds from Finnish hand grenades to furloughed employees, or even the desire to.

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    Meanwhile, there's this:

    At the National Institutes of Health, nearly three-quarters of the staff was furloughed. One result: director Francis Collins said about 200 patients who otherwise would be admitted to the NIH Clinical Center into clinical trials each week will be turned away. This includes about 30 children, most of them cancer patients, he said. (From behind the WSJ paywall via the Atlantic) (h/t a tweet from science writer
    I really dislike the DoD.

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    Why are people still surprised by that, I dont understand? They can get away with spending so much because they print money, and most of the people in america dont care that the military gets so much money (I dont care for what reason really, their choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    spend it or lose it, pretty standard across all types of organizations
    Actually no, not at all. Pretty standard across all types of corrupt, rotten organisations. That is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    Why are people still surprised by that, I dont understand? They can get away with spending so much because they print money, and most of the people in america dont care that the military gets so much money (I dont care for what reason really, their choice).
    You don't just... print money when you want. The economy stands on a fragile balance and printing money like that is risky.
    http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/13...ey-on-economy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Actually no, not at all. Pretty standard across all types of corrupt, rotten organisations. That is true.
    lol ok, if your parents give you a $10 allowance under the condition that if you don't spend it within a week you have to return it, what are you going to do?

    The grounds department at the university I work at saves their money over the course of the year in case some unexpected expenses/needs arise, then spends everything that remains over the last month or so on renovations, new flower beds and the like. Evil and corrupt clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Meanwhile, there's this:



    I really dislike the DoD.
    Congress gave DoD a certain amount of money to spend within their legal purvue. DoD cannot just give it's remaining budget to another organization. There is a bad guy in this scenario; the members of congress who decided to hold 30 children with cancer over a fire in an attempt to achieve their minority political desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    lol ok, if your parents give you a $10 allowance under the condition that if you don't spend it within a week you have to return it, what are you going to do?

    The grounds department at the university I work at saves their money over the course of the year in case some unexpected expenses/needs arise, then spends everything that remains over the last month or so on renovations, new flower beds and the like. Evil and corrupt clearly.
    No you're right. It's perfectly normal behaviour in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Congress gave DoD a certain amount of money to spend within their legal purvue. DoD cannot just give it's remaining budget to another organization. There is a bad guy in this scenario; the members of congress who decided to hold 30 children with cancer over a fire in an attempt to achieve their minority political desires.
    I do not like the DoD because it's allocation is about three times what it should be. We wouldn't have much for budgetary constraints if we didn't immolate money at the altar of the war gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I do not like the DoD because it's allocation is about three times what it should be. We wouldn't have much for budgetary constraints if we didn't immolate money at the altar of the war gods.
    I totally agree that DoD spending is completely out of control. My point is that DoD isn't to blame. Congress and the President decide how much money is allocated to different departments, and are thus the guilty parties (and the American voters who allow this to continue). It is conceivable that DoD could say "hey we don't need this money, stop giving it to us", but pretty unlikely... it could be argued that by not spending the money which was "in principal" given to them by the American people, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.

    In a metaphorical sense, Americaville hired a soldier and gave him half of their tax money... what's the guy gonna do? Quit? The responsibility is right in our laps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    I totally agree that DoD spending is completely out of control. My point is that DoD isn't to blame. Congress and the President decide how much money is allocated to different departments, and are thus the guilty parties (and the American voters who allow this to continue). It is conceivable that DoD could say "hey we don't need this money, stop giving it to us", but pretty unlikely... it could be argued that by not spending the money which was "in principal" given to them by the American people, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.

    In a metaphorical sense, Americaville hired a soldier and gave him half of their tax money... what's the guy gonna do? Quit? The responsibility is right in our laps.
    That's fine, you're mechanistically correct. This does not make me like the DoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    I totally agree that DoD spending is completely out of control. My point is that DoD isn't to blame. Congress and the President decide how much money is allocated to different departments, and are thus the guilty parties (and the American voters who allow this to continue). It is conceivable that DoD could say "hey we don't need this money, stop giving it to us", but pretty unlikely... it could be argued that by not spending the money which was "in principal" given to them by the American people, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.

    In a metaphorical sense, Americaville hired a soldier and gave him half of their tax money... what's the guy gonna do? Quit? The responsibility is right in our laps.
    Actually, the DoD has even said "hey stop giving us money" a few times. They asked Congress to stop buying tanks and Congress ignored them. I'm not even sure if they wanted the extra F-35 engine that Congress wasted money on a while back.
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