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    6 weeks to finish Titan Runestones?

    Just read a blues post and it said:
    It's only 1 attempt per boss per week across all difficulties.

    If you already completed Siege of Orgrimmar wings 1 and 2 for Secrets of the Empire they won't drop a Titan Runestone. If you haven't completed Throne of Thunder wings 3 and 4 though, you can run that with Lei Shen being a 100% guaranteed drop..

    As a side note, only the first 8 bosses in SoO have a chance (Sha of Pride is 100% guaranteed just like Lei Shen) to drop items for Wrathion's legendary quest line.
    By reading this, we can confirm that we can get 2 per week guaranteed without any luck. I just recently started the quest myself, finished secrets right before i started and had only one LFR part i could do for loot, did it and got 1 runestone for the week. Seems pretty neat to me because it was 12 weeks without any luck.

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    Did they also increase the drop rates? They can also drop from the first two wings of SoO, so even if the drop rate remains constant that's twice the opportunities each week (plus like you said the 2 guaranteed ones).

    Pretty sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Did they also increase the drop rates? They can also drop from the first two wings of SoO, so even if the drop rate remains constant that's twice the opportunities each week (plus like you said the 2 guaranteed ones).

    Pretty sweet.
    I think it is awesome because people just starting out won't have to grind 12 weeks if they have bad luck. The quest can range from 6 weeks now and with a little drop rate increase this will only take a month and a half.

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    IIRC I got my Runestones in about 7-9 weeks? Some weeks I got literally none (prior to the guaranteed runestone), one week I got 3. The RNG was fucking awful, I would so much rather they ask you to gather 40 items with 100% drop rate than 10 items with a 25% drop rate.

    But yeah despite all the complaints I've seen about the legendary vs. alts, progressing that chain is super fast compared to the first time I did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Did they also increase the drop rates? They can also drop from the first two wings of SoO, so even if the drop rate remains constant that's twice the opportunities each week (plus like you said the 2 guaranteed ones).

    Pretty sweet.
    It doesn't seem like they increased it at all. I ran all the possible bosses that could drop Runestones (14 I think? 6 in ToT, 8 in SOO) and got three. So if Lei Shen and Sha are 100%, that means out of 12 bosses that could drop one, I only got 1 runestone. Last week I only got the 100% guaranteed drops. Luckily now I'm sitting at 11 so that means I'm definitely going to finish it next week, but the drop rate is still abysmal.

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    I've done Normal SoO from Iron Juggernaut up to Spoils this week BEFORE I accepted the Secrets of the Empire quest - If i do the same bosses again on /flex or below, will I not be eligible for the drop? Was kind of hoping that it doesn't register as I wasn't on the quest when I killed them!

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    I think it's a joke that non alt toons can get all this stuff so easily now. Don't get me wrong it's not "special snowflake syndrome" I don't have a problem with it being accessible to everyone. What I do have a problem with is the fact I worked ALL expansion for my cloak and now people can ding a fresh toon and with good rng complete it in a couple of months (when it took most of us a whole year). It kinda cheapens what everyone who has ground it out since 5.0 did to get the cloak, and makes it blindingly obvious that they're once again using the colour orange as a means to maintain subs.

    These catch up mechanics should only be available to alts imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItcheeBeard View Post
    These catch up mechanics should only be available to alts imo
    So new players shouldn't be able to catch up speed with the current content? That kind of is special snowflake syndrome as you so aptly named it. As a heroic raider I find it strange that you even care about catch up mechanisms, you're already so far ahead of the pack that none of these changes effect anyone but your alts.

    I'm not just talking about brand new players to the game, what if you simply recruited a friend to assist in your raiding/pvp/w/e...you really want that person to be gated behind several months of content just because it took you that long?

    You can't say this took you a solid year to complete unless you're talking about you know that more than half a year of downtime.

    How many people do you think would be incredibly turned off by having to do 6 weeks of valor capping just after completing a gem that has nothing to do with anything anymore. So yea you do have a problem with it being accessible to everyone, you think that only people willing to do the work that you did should be able to use what you have.

    You don't build a bridge so that only you can use it.

    As far as on topic goes, I recently completed my 7th legendary cloak for my warlock, I got extremely lucky with runestones and completed it in 2 weeks. The drop rate is definitely not increased, just that there are more than twice as many bosses that can drop it now, with an additional 100% guarantee...so even your worst week is still twice as good as it would have been in Throne of Thunder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItcheeBeard View Post
    I think it's a joke that non alt toons can get all this stuff so easily now. Don't get me wrong it's not "special snowflake syndrome" I don't have a problem with it being accessible to everyone. What I do have a problem with is the fact I worked ALL expansion for my cloak and now people can ding a fresh toon and with good rng complete it in a couple of months (when it took most of us a whole year). It kinda cheapens what everyone who has ground it out since 5.0 did to get the cloak, and makes it blindingly obvious that they're once again using the colour orange as a means to maintain subs.

    These catch up mechanics should only be available to alts imo

    It is more than 2 months.
    1 week for first part
    3 weeks for valor cap
    5/6 weeks for x20 drop
    4/5 weeks for x12 drop

    Last 2 are RNG, so just an avg there. Maximum time is 10 & 6 weeks respectively.

    Excluding the wait for the next quest in the next patch
    , how long did it take people to farm those prior to 5.4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Did they also increase the drop rates? They can also drop from the first two wings of SoO, so even if the drop rate remains constant that's twice the opportunities each week (plus like you said the 2 guaranteed ones).

    Pretty sweet.
    They increased the drop rate in ToT. So much so that I went from 3 runestones to 12 in about 2 weeks just from doing the ToT lfr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guybrush88 View Post
    It is more than 2 months.
    1 week for first part
    3 weeks for valor cap
    5/6 weeks for x20 drop
    4/5 weeks for x12 drop

    Last 2 are RNG, so just an avg there. Maximum time is 10 & 6 weeks respectively.

    Excluding the wait for the next quest in the next patch
    , how long did it take people to farm those prior to 5.4?
    Prior to 5.4 I only got 3 runestones in the space of 3-4 weeks, after 5.4 I got the rest of them in 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Inside View Post
    They increased the drop rate in ToT. So much so that I went from 3 runestones to 12 in about 2 weeks just from doing the ToT lfr.

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    Prior to 5.4 I only got 3 runestones in the space of 3-4 weeks, after 5.4 I got the rest of them in 2 weeks.
    That does not mean they increased the drop rate at all, it means you got lucky RNG. You cant claim that because YOU got good drops they increased the drop rate, as anyone who got bad drops could invalidate that with the opposite. 0/10

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    Now with the 2 runestones/secrets guaranteed, yes you will have less time. But also taking into account that is saying that you will not get another from any other boss in either instance.

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    Personally I think the drop chance dropped on getting them. I used to be able to snag 2-3 a run and now it seems only the guaranteed bosses are dropping them
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItcheeBeard View Post
    I think it's a joke that non alt toons can get all this stuff so easily now. Don't get me wrong it's not "special snowflake syndrome" I don't have a problem with it being accessible to everyone. What I do have a problem with is the fact I worked ALL expansion for my cloak and now people can ding a fresh toon and with good rng complete it in a couple of months (when it took most of us a whole year).
    First off, the reason it took us a year to complete the chain was because you would finish Step 1... then wait a month for the patch. Complete another step... then wait another few months for another patch. It's not like an entire year was spent farming for the thing.

    It kinda cheapens what everyone who has ground it out since 5.0 did to get the cloak, and makes it blindingly obvious that they're once again using the colour orange as a means to maintain subs.
    Because there's a ton of people maintaining a sub just for a legendary cloak, right? I think your definition of "blindingly obvious" is not that clear.

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    Sha of Fear still does not drop the Titan Runestone, it's 100% drop on the items before it. I just ran it on LFR to confirm.
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    Out of the 12 non-guaranteed bosses you will still probably get 1 runestone, maybe 2. So it's 3-4 weeks, still far too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Sha of Fear still does not drop the Titan Runestone, it's 100% drop on the items before it. I just ran it on LFR to confirm.
    He's not supposed to.

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    I was lucky to get 4 this week and my legendary cloak.

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    You can keep running the bosses on LFR until you get one. If you feel like doing maximum grinding, it should only take you one full week of LFR.

    If you do the bosses once (maybe twice), it should take you about 3 weeks. If you figure one stone per LFR (2 from ToT, 2 from SoO, of which 2 are guarantee), then you'll be getting 4/week.

    But let's be honest, you'll probably get more. And if you spam run Pinnacle for the first two bosses, after two or three runs of doing just Iron Quon and Consorts, then you might even finish it in two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totle View Post
    You can keep running the bosses on LFR until you get one. If you feel like doing maximum grinding, it should only take you one full week of LFR.

    If you do the bosses once (maybe twice), it should take you about 3 weeks. If you figure one stone per LFR (2 from ToT, 2 from SoO, of which 2 are guarantee), then you'll be getting 4/week.

    But let's be honest, you'll probably get more. And if you spam run Pinnacle for the first two bosses, after two or three runs of doing just Iron Quon and Consorts, then you might even finish it in two weeks.
    I thought you could only get 1 chance at the drop per boss, regardless of difficulty, per week. Am I wrong on this? Can you farm a boss until he drops one?

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