Lich King 25HC toughest boss in WoW History?

[Deleted]

Prove me wrong! No one could bring him down without the buff except for Paragon and they had 500 wipes + a month and a half of tedious progressing on him.

[Rucati]

My vote goes to pre-nerf M'uru in Sunwell. Was absurd.

[Deleted]

C'thun, pre-fix/nerf. Was quite literally unkillable.

[Windfury]

#1 Ouro - 87 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 26th April 2006.
#2 C'thun - 86 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 25th April 2006.
#3 tied Chromaggus - 74 days from Ebonroc's death. 25th September 2005.
#3 tied Ragnaros - 74 days from Majordomo Executus' death. 25th April 2005.
#5 Yogg-Saron, Alone in the Darkness - 70 days from Stars' first pull. 7th July 2009
#6 High Astromancer Solarian - 59 days from Magtheridon's death (unlocking the Eye). 24th April 2007
#7 The Four Horsemen - 56 days from Gothik's death to D&T's kill. August 25th 2006
#8 Al'ar <Phoenix God> - 48 days from Magtheridon's death. 13th April 2007
#9 The Lich King (Heroic 25) - 42 Days from Heroic Putricide's death (first pull). March 26th 2010
#10 Heroic Al'Akir 25 - 36 days from Heroic Conclave of Wind's death. January 22nd 2011.
#11 Kael'thas Sunstrider <Lord of the Blood Elves> - 31 days from Solarian's death (first pull). 25th May 2007
#12 Magtheridon - 29 days from the first level 70 25-man raid. 24th February 2007
#13 Lady Vashj <Coilfang Matron> - 17 days from being unlocked. 29th March 2007
#14 Leotheras the Blind - 16 days from Hydross' death. 4th March 2007
#15 Loatheb - 14 days from Heigan's death. 17th July 2006
#16 tied Heigan the Unclean - 13 days from Noth the Plaguebringer's death. 3rd July 2006
#16 tied Hydross the Unstable <Duke of Currents> - 13 days from Gruul's death (Unlocking Serpentshrine). 16th February 2007
#16 tied Heroic Cho'gall - 13 days from Heroic Ascendant Council's death. 15th January 2011.
#16 tied Heroic Nefarian - 13 days from Heroic Atramedes' death. January 9th 2011.
#20 tied Archimonde <The Defiler> - 10 days from Azgalor's death. 9th June 2007
#20 tied Gothik the Harvester - 10 days from Instructor Razuvious' death. 30th June 2006
#22 tied Mimiron Firefighter 25 - 8 days from Ensidia's first pull. May 1st 2009
#22 tied Sapphiron - 8 days from Four Horsemen dying. 2nd September 2006
#22 tied Gruul the Dragonkiller - 8 days from Maulgar's death. 3rd February 2007
#25 Reliquary of Lost Souls - 6 days from Gurtogg's death. 2nd June 2007
#26 tied Kel'Thuzad - 5 days from Sapphiron's death. 7th September 2006
#26 tied Kil'jaeden <The Deceiver> - 5 days from the opening of the third Sunwell gate. 25th May 2008
#26 tied Sinestra - 5 days from Heroic Cho'gall's death. January 20th 2011.
#29 tied Heroic Anub'arak 25 - 4 days from Heroic Twin Val'kyr's death. September 6th 2009.
#29 tied M'uru. 4 days from the opening of the second Sunwell gate. 4th May 2008


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LK 25s difficulty is overrated due to the pacing mechanism of only allowing 50 attempts per week on the boss. It took 6 weeks to kill, but that was in actuality only ~325 wipes. Had there been no limitation on attempts a serious raiding guild would go through that in a couple of days learning a boss. So the real difficulty of LK was the limited attempts mechanic, which was total bullshit.

I also agree with Mu'ru being the most challenging at the time. It was the tightest tuned I've seen anything, and the first boss that really made sure every single person in the raid had a job they had to execute flawlessly throughout the fight.

[PotaTW]

C'Thun prenerf was the hardest ever!

[brirrspliff]

#1 Ouro - 87 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 26th April 2006.
#2 C'thun - 86 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 25th April 2006.
#3 tied Chromaggus - 74 days from Ebonroc's death. 25th September 2005.

how often will this useless list be posted? also, who the "hardest" boss is might differ from guild to guild. and only those who killed them are able to make a valid comment.

[PotaTW]

Ouro is optional... If people had focused him instead of C'thun he would go down quicker...

[Rucati]

Ouro is optional... If people had focused him instead of C'thun he would go down quicker...

And C'thun quite literally couldn't be killed, so that really shouldn't count. He wasn't the toughest boss, just the most broken. Had that happened in patch 5.4 with a boss it would have been fixed within a couple days.

[Windfury]

how often will this useless list be posted? also, who the "hardest" boss is might differ from guild to guild. and only those who killed them are able to make a valid comment.

Why exactly is it useless? The op asked for "proof" that other bosses were harder. This list clearly demonstrates other bosses took longer to kill and were thus more difficult to kill for whatever reason. How would you provide this proof?

And yes, different guilds found different things difficult, but a world first is a world first, it shows how fast whoever the best players at the time were to kill something, which equalises the 'different guilds find things easier/harder' issue.

[Deleted]

Prove me wrong! No one could bring him down without the buff except for Paragon and they had 500 wipes + a month and a half of tedious progressing on him.

LK was gated, 50 attemps a week, they said it took them 187 tries I belive.
Don't know where you got that 500 from, but that's not true.
They also stated that their kill try had one guy beeing dced for most if not all of the fight, and that with the boss not beeing gated, they would have gotten him down before the first buff.

[Deleted]

I think it had some revolutionary mechanics and thats why its one of hardest bosses as current content. If blizzard would add boss like him now, i think it wouldnt take too long before his down. Thats mostly cos player skills also evolve

[Hellhammer]

not surprising at all, classic took a raid ages to gear up, so progress was also tied to people getting the right gear levels in time

[Wildmoon]

H Rag remains the hardest I believe. H Rag,H Lei Shen,H LK, all of them are the definition of hard boss in modern raiding.

[Deleted]

40 man raids dropping 3-4 items, yeah i wonder why dps checks take longer

[Gimlix]

H Rag remains the hardest I believe. H Rag,H Lei Shen,H LK, all of them are the definition of hard boss in modern raiding.

Didn't the world first take like 1+ month to kill Ra'den?

[JudgePayne]

H Rag remains the hardest I believe. H Rag,H Lei Shen,H LK, all of them are the definition of hard boss in modern raiding.

Perhaps but this thread is about the hardest boss and i can tell you from first hand knowledge that the bosses in aq40 were the hardest bosses I have every fought in wow to date, The only boss that comes close is yogg 25 no lights.

But as difficulty goes vanilla had a huge amount of super difficult bosses. People today do not know what difficult raiding is.

[Wildmoon]

Didn't the world first take like 1+ month to kill Ra'den?

hmm I remember it took pretty short time to take down. i could be wrong though.

[Gimlix]

hmm I remember it took pretty short time to take down. i could be wrong though.

I can't remember, but i know that ToT took atleast a 1+ month before all bosses were down on heroic.

[Wildmoon]

Perhaps but this thread is about the hardest boss and i can tell you from first hand knowledge that the bosses in aq40 were the hardest bosses I have every fought in wow to date, The only boss that comes close is yogg 25 no lights.

But as difficulty goes vanilla had a huge amount of super difficult bosses. People today do not know what difficult raiding is.

It depends on what defines difficulty.

[Theiea]

Why is that boss list still being posted? C'thun was killed hours after he was fixed, Solarian had like 4 different versions of the fight before she was finally killable.