Is she claiming Rape to save face?

[Deleted]

Yea, this isn't so much about rape with force as it is about shes just to drunk to say yes. The law is having sex with a drunk person can be rape if drunk person says yes that night and wakes up and regrets it. From the footage she was totally into it that night but was to smashed to give consent.

And the man wasn't?

Following that logic, she clearly raped him.

He was too drunk to consent to the fingering, therefor - she's a rapist.

Edit; and the amount of alcohol ingested can influence the case heavily, if it was a few drinks - that wouldn't impair consent.

Considerably smashed? Yeah, that would. But from this at least, it's clear she was able to coherently speak, consent, and pose for pictures.

[-Azax-]

Yea, this isn't so much about rape with force as it is about shes just to drunk to say yes. The law is having sex with a drunk person can be rape if drunk person says yes that night and wakes up and regrets it. From the footage she was totally into it that night but was to smashed to give consent.

so basically, if you regret having sex while under the influence, its suddenly the other person "raped" you? lol.

thats bullshit.

[Vargur]

I mean, what kind of ... impolite insane kiddo records and uploads such thing? being it rape or not, that doesn't even matter!

People have some serious boring life issues man, NOW I understand why they once in a while pick a gun and begin a killing spree, because they are doomed to do such things when they start off with this kind of crap.

Seriously, I don't care if this was rape or not, if it was justice shall be done. Be it or not, I'd gather those "uploaders" and put them to the shadows for a little while, someone should teach them some manners.

LOL, shut up, watch some porn next time you spew that.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Err, just because you regret it, it doesn't make it rape.. I'd say she wasn't too smashed to give consent based on what they were doing.

Umm did you even look at the picture. She looked pleased if you ask me.

[Crissi]

Yea, this isn't so much about rape with force as it is about shes just to drunk to say yes. The law is having sex with a drunk person can be rape if drunk person says yes that night and wakes up and regrets it. From the footage she was totally into it that night but was to smashed to give consent.

Too smashed to give consent isnt saying yes, being aware you said yes, but then wishing you didnt after the fact. its when you are completely incapable of saying any kind of answer at all.

[Deleted]

Umm did you even look at the picture. She looked pleased if you ask me.

Huh? I didn't say it was rape. <.<

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Huh? I didn't say it was rape. <.<

Damn I'm tired, I read that wrong.

[Deleted]

Wasn't that difficult to find the video online and that wasn't rape at all. She stroke his hair, pushing his head towards her, moaning and having a jolly good time. Why the fuck would she lie when she knows the video is right there to prove her wrong?!

[Deleted]

Wasn't that difficult to find the video online and that wasn't rape at all. She stroke his hair, pushing his head towards her, moaning and having a jolly good time. Why the fuck would she lie when she knows the video is right there to prove her wrong?!

Being ashamed?

[cynicalz]

is this even a question? of course she is like 90% of all other "cases"

[Deleted]

Being ashamed?

But this makes it even more embarrassing. No one beside some random internet perv would have seen this video if she didn't go and make a scene about it, now everyone has seen it.

[Deleted]

Being ashamed?

As said before, shame can motivate a rational person into making awful decisions.

She's just opt'd to throw her entire career and uni place away on a whim, sadly.

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But this makes it even more embarrassing. No one beside some random internet perv would have seen this video if she didn't go and make a scene about it, now everyone has seen it.

Well, it was all other twitter for her local state.

It would of most likely got into the entire uni, her family and friends would of found it.

Blah blah blah.

So she cried rape, to regain her "standing" so to speak.

[sam86]

Indeed. But still, what's going on in your head when you think something like : "I will record and upload this".

Sorry but nothing force u to see it
If u don't like it why force others to not do it too (and I won't see it, I don't like it either but I don't want to force my opinion on others)

[Deleted]

Well, it was all other twitter for her local state.

It would of most likely got into the entire uni, her family and friends would of found it.

Blah blah blah.

So she cried rape, to regain her "standing" so to speak.

Fair enough but still, there are a million other ways to play off the situation.

*Wasn't me. Guess I have a doppelganger.*
* Nope, photoshop.*
*Fuck you, that's why.*

Some goddamn imagination at least, lol.

[Deleted]

Fair enough but still, there are a million other ways to play off the situation.

*Wasn't me, guess I have a doppelganger.*
* Nope, photoshop.*
*Fuck you, that's why.*

Some goddamn imagination at least, lol.

I lol'd when I read that which is bolded.

But yeah, lame way to handle the situation.

[Xenofreak]

Turns out the video is on youtube. Perhaps I just got lucky and stumbled upon a re-upload before it got taken down again. But no, dear god no. If this man goes to jail for rape without there being blood-work to show her being drugged, I'm going to be more than a bit disappointed in our legal system.

[minteK917]

I truly hope that she had blood work done the next day and it reflects she had been drugged.
Most of you in this comment thread are so vicious and hateful, and have no compassion for what it is to be assaulted. Unfortunately, many women you know have lived through this, and your hateful words not only put down this woman, but the women close to you who are too fearful to speak up and find healing because of your judgements.

Try learning the laws, maybe talking to a rape crisis center to get a grasp on compassion. Yes, if you commit a crime while drunk, you are responsible. However, you always have a right to your own body, and with out a stable mind due to intoxication or being drugged, no one has the right to take advantage of your body, male or female.

As for if the other is drunk. Many rapists have that m.o., and courts and judges know that. There are predators in the world who are going to seek out victims. One way for them to get away with their crimes is to get themselves intoxicated first. Most people in the community just look at them as being sloppy drunks or alcholics, and having the wool pulled over their eyes that this is actually a predator.

So, the rule of thumb...it's the intention behind the person accused. If he or she is going into a "date" situation with the intention of getting sex after the drinking has begun, while the other person has made no intentions of doing so, the court views it as rape even though both parties are drunk. It's extremely difficult to prosecute these things, it usually takes a group of women banding together and fighting the predator in court, rather than a lone single voice.

Just because a woman doesn't fight someone off, does not mean it was not rape. There are many survival techniques, and no one knows now any one will react when a violation of the body is happening. If she is has had drugs mixed into her alcohol, she could actually be in a "black out state" where none of her behavior is registering in her conscious mind, and is actually acting extremely out of her normal behavior. This usually happens when predators mix sleeping pills into alcohol.

It is so terribly sad that our culture is almost always on the side of blame the victim. And now growing on the side of, hey, post that crap to the Internet as soon as possible, so everyone can humiliate and berate the victim. It's time we all take a look at the true rape culture.

I know it's hard, because to do so means you are going to discover you probably actually know a few rapists, and that's a tough pill to swallow.

This post is serious.... you watch the video 20 second and you can already tell its consentual sex across the board, drunk or not drunk. She fixes her hair during sex, are you serious. After its over they stand up and take pictures with the people watching, yes very big rape. Are porno stars gona claim rape soon? What more do you need, she should crack a smoke and say it was good sex like its some shitty movie. Im sorry but rape is not a pleasent experience and no you dont take pictures with bystanders to show off that you got raped. Get this shit out of here, this is a joke to everyone that got legitimatly raped and this girl is offensive.

[Jackmoves]

Wasn't that difficult to find the video online and that wasn't rape at all. She stroke his hair, pushing his head towards her, moaning and having a jolly good time. Why the fuck would she lie when she knows the video is right there to prove her wrong?!

What can we learn from this?
Convince the girl(s) you are with to let you record the sexual activity, every single one of them. Solid proof! ;P

[minteK917]

What can we learn from this?
Convince the girl(s) you are with to let you record the sexual activity, every single one of them. Solid proof! ;P

You dont even need to convince them of that here. The law about video and audio evidence for court as a civilian is simple. It can be recorded without the other party knowing, but the person recording must be part of whats in the video. Exemple you cant video tape 2 people talking without them knowing you are there with them, they dont have to know you are recording, just that you are an active participant. Not sure if its the same in the US or Most of europe. So google glasses sex incoming, recording the whole thing, keep some archive and one day it might be useful in court lol.