oQueue Global ban in code

[Obby]

Hes does not even say why they were banned.

according to that theory right there you shouldnt even fucking log into wow.....you report some one blizz doesnt make it public if and or why some one got ban.....soooooooo yea that argument is fucking retarded

Infracted.

[But I Hate You All]

Don't be a a majour douche and you won't get banned.

Personally I used Oqueue a few times and it never yielded any pozitive results for me. All groups in there ask for 2k rating, which I don't have, don't really need melee dps, which I am, don't really need non-russian players, and the groups for capping conquest points fail miserably.

I find it hard to take this guy seriously or trust him since he has admitted his global ban system is arbitrary and refuses to give any indication as to what he does to ensure it isnt misused.

For all I know, asking a question is in itself what he deems "offensive"

[Ealyssa]

it is amusing he refuses to answer a simple question:
what are the parameters for being banned?

That was answered in #2 of this thread...

Not sure what kind of crusade OP try to start here, unless being himself on the banlist.
I find this addon even better if hard trolls hard definitly banned (now he should ban the guys starting their raid names like "!!! Celestial" to be first on the list)

[But I Hate You All]

according to that theory right there you shouldnt even fucking log into wow.....you report some one blizz doesnt make it public if and or why some one got ban.....soooooooo yea that argument is fucking retarded

Your not understanding no criteria is given on what will get you banned. Even these forums have a criteria.

[Deleted]

oh he does have a very douche attitude

another Gem

I think you have a very weird impression on what a "very douche attitude" is if you think

it's a free addon. if you act like this in oQueue groups, i'm pretty sure the community would be glad you left.

Is "a very douche attitude".

OP acted stupid, got called out on it and now he makes a thread fishing for sympathy and for people to join "his side".

Just pathetic.

[But I Hate You All]

That was answered in #2 of this thread...

Not sure what kind of crusade OP try to start here, unless being himself on the banlist.
I find this addon even better if hard trolls hard definitly banned (now he should ban the guys starting their raid names like "!!! Celestial" to be first on the list)

No I just found it shocking as someone else said

To be honest, this is just silliness. In order to avoid a problem that doesn't exist you create another one.

You just list it out. People are always going to ride the line if that's the way they behave. It's not going to matter whether you list what is bannable or not. They will keep pushing and pushing to see how far they can push you. To claim listing it will make them do it more is complete foolishness. Not having guidelines is just going to help encourage them more to test the waters and see just how far they can actually go since you have set basically zero boundaries.

You talk about moderation but don't do it in the community you created.

You set rules and boundaries about what is and is not acceptable, with the caveat at the end that says something like this: "I reserve the right to ban other offensive behaviors as they become known at my own discretion" which covers you for people doing things like constantly pushing the boundary.

You decide whether or not people can plead their cases, or if it's a case by case basis with some cases permanently banned with no chance of it being lifted. Then state a person can plead their case once and after that, if the plea fails then the ban stands.

Being concerned with people whining and complaining when they get banned, again, is complete foolishness. Either you are strong enough to ban and block people who abuse the rules and community or you let them get away with it. Being concerned with such things before they even happen shows that you actually don't want to deal with it and instead feel forced to when there is no other choice.

People who break the rules are always going to break the rules. But you can't accuse someone of breaking the rules when you yourself have set down no rules. Being concerned that this will encourage bad behavior is a moot point. Their will always be people who prefer to wallow in filth and people who want to do what is right. Yet you can't accuse people if you yourself have set down no real guildlines.

People actually like rules in a sense that it shows them what they can and cannot do, along with the knowledge that the person in charge of them is supposed to be following the same rules which protects them from abuse. Not having rules puts people in a limbo like state and makes them wonder if they are vulnerable to abuse and/or the person in charge of them will abuse their power.

it's just another reason to not support OQ and laugh the day it gets broke or abandoned

[Obby]

Your not understanding no criteria is given on what will get you banned. Even these forums have a criteria.

....no criteria..........im pritty sure joining a group and being a blatent douche bag is criteria....or doing shit in raid to intentionally cause wipes....not every thing needs to be set in stone some of its common sense

[CosmicGuitars]

Nah I used OQ a few times had the displeasure of runing with Tinysmasher, deleted the addon right after. Not banned for using oq but

So there's more to the creation of this thread than a simple warning, eh?

[But I Hate You All]

I think you have a very weird impression on what a "very douche attitude" is, the guy is fair and you were probably the one who acted like a douche.

No You see as I said before I had the displeasure of doing some bgs with him like 7 months ago. I really would not waste my time typing a replay to him.

[Verain]

Yea, Like addons that let you bypass the 5 man limit in to random bgs?

Not an exploit. People have done this since vanilla. The fact that it's slightly harder and oqueue gives you timestamps is fine.

I find it hard to take this guy seriously or trust him since he has admitted his global ban system is arbitrary and refuses to give any indication as to what he does to ensure it isnt misused.

Who gives a shit? It's his fucking addon. It's his goddamned ludicrously complex distributed mesh code that does with motherfucking battletags what Blizzard has failed to fucking do for the history of this game. Oqueue is the best feature of Mists of Pandaria. It has added better features than any of the Blizzard ones IMO.

Don't like it? Who cares!



He runs it. It's his charity, his house. You didn't elect him, you didn't hire him, and you didn't write the addon. So far, he's banning cheaters, trolls, and general asshats. If he starts abusing his power, the community will fork the addon.

But he won't.




Fuck.

For all I know, asking a question is in itself what he deems "offensive"

He has 9 people on that list, and answers tons of questions.




Look man, ultimately, it's his thing. You don't pay him. If you did, he'd probably listen. Hell, offer him a couple hundred bucks to list his requirements. He's put in hours worth thousands of dollars unpaid so far.

[CosmicGuitars]

need rules? ok

oQueue rules:
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1. don't exploit oQueue
2. don't be a raging tool bag* to members of your group
3. don't create offensive groups
4. any behavior deemed not in the spirit of the oQueue community may lead to a global ban

*raging toolbag: any behavior that may radically upset of offend members of your group or the community. such behavior would typically earn a ban from blizz

Happy with those, or are you more upset by his abrasive attitude?

[Gnosk]

Why would you laugh if it was to be broken or abandoned? many thousands of people use it and enjoy it. You keep going on about how the creator is a douche but then go on to act like one yourself.

If you don't like or want to use the mod don't use it, why can't you do that? what's stopping you? why do you need to make threads like this attempting to make a mountain out of a molehill?

[Verain]

it's just another reason to not support OQ and laugh the day it gets broke or abandoned

This addon will define WoW until the moment Blizzard puts an equivalent as a feature. I don't doubt that they are working on it right now.

[Racthoh]

chances are they got caught faking rating/ilvl/resilience and deserve a ban. just saying.

[Deleted]

I am so glad I found out about Oqueue, downloaded and tried it yesterday and boy is it as good as people have said ^^

[But I Hate You All]

Not an exploit. People have done this since vanilla. The fact that it's slightly harder and oqueue gives you timestamps is fine.

Blizzard disagrees. bypassing the 5 man limit is a exploit period

Who gives a shit? It's his fucking addon. It's his goddamned ludicrously complex distributed mesh code that does with motherfucking battletags what Blizzard has failed to fucking do for the history of this game. Oqueue is the best feature of Mists of Pandaria. It has added better features than any of the Blizzard ones IMO.

No reason to get upset and it is a 3rd party addon to run on BLIZZARDS game

Don't like it? Who cares!

As said before no reason to get hostile

He runs it. It's his charity, his house. You didn't elect him, you didn't hire him, and you didn't write the addon. So far, he's banning cheaters, trolls, and general asshats. If he starts abusing his power, the community will fork the addon.

charity? pleany of other addons that run on donations

But he won't.




Fuck.

Are you ok?

He has 9 people on that list, and answers tons of questions.

as said before he does not want to say what will get someone banned no tos no rules

Look man, ultimately, it's his thing. You don't pay him. If you did, he'd probably listen. Hell, offer him a couple hundred bucks to list his requirements. He's put in hours worth thousands of dollars unpaid so far.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH if people did not use his addon he would be nothing really. Bottom line it runs off donations you know like the send beer button he hard coded in. As I said in the op I NEVER heard of a 3rd party addon banning people

[Verain]

It sounds like OP was grouped with Tiny and had a disagreement, and wants the addon to fail.


Lets be real here: Oqueue has redefined group finding. At this point, it's a selling point of WoW that other MMOs lack. It's functional, fast, and far better than anything else we've seen.

There's some "issues"... but none of them are with the addon. Like, it's hard for a melee to get a group. You can't fix that with an addon- that's on Blizzard. Addon issues are things like, I can't put an item level for melee dps (550), ranged dps (540), healers (520) and tanks (525). But most of those things are based on the bandwidth- because oqueue doesn't run on the servers like a giant bulletin board of ever changing groups SHOULD, it instead is entirely distributed. The fact that it works is a goddamned triumph, and every MMO should be breaking backs to copy this shit.

[DPA]

Yea pretty much, he also has some donation thing coded in his addon and you still can use it to by pass the 5 man limit for Random bgs. I would not be surprised if blizzard did break it

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Hes does not even say why they were banned.

I doubt blizzard is going to do anything, they even encouraged to the use of the addon in a bluepost regarding trouble finding enough people for rbg on lowpop realms.

[But I Hate You All]

Happy with those, or are you more upset by his abrasive attitude?

I would be happy if it had some TOS with it. but only 9 people fall under them rules are we playing the same wow game

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I doubt blizzard is going to do anything, they even encouraged to the use of the addon in a bluepost regarding trouble finding enough people for rbg on lowpop realms.

Holika has Tiny blocked on Twitter and even said they have plans to address the the 5 man bg by pass that oq offers other than that they like the add on. Also oQueue is "In moderation" on Curse and if you have wow and Hearthstone going at the same time with OQ you get spamed.

[DPA]

I NEVER heard of a 3rd party addon banning people

Did you know that as a moderator of a custom chat channel in WoW, you can ban people? Outrage!!