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    Stood in the Fire Zantera's Avatar
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    Your stance on world pvp?

    Question might be phrased badly, so a follow-up question would be: "What makes you kill another player in-game?".

    We all encounter other players while doing things, some prefer to play friendly or just stick to what they are doing, others go out of their way to kill every player of the opposing faction they encounter. I find it interesting because there's different ways of approaching it. I don't consider this a "do you like world pvp or not?"-kind of question, but rather a scale and where each person draws their line.

    Me personally, I consider myself a very friendly player. I might have started fights back in the early days of WoW, but for the last couple of years I stick to my stuff, I don't kill alliance-players I come across, because I have no reason to do so. And if I did, it would just be a waste of time, and I might get revenge coming my way (which would slow me down even more) if I chose to start a fight.

    Despite this, like all players I've had my fair share of frustration when being attacked by other players. Usually this comes in tough situations, like me being on a low level alt and getting killed by a 90, or getting jumped by 2-3 players while being alone. When I feel attacked, and when other people start doing shit towards me, that's where my line goes. You could say that I will go out of my way to make that person's life a living hell, which in some situations consists of me corpsecamping them for 40 minutes because they killed me once, without any reason.

    As for situations like someone tagging a rare-mob or stealing a mine/herb in front of my nose, I let that slide. If it's a rare-mob I will even help the other player kill it, because I know myself how frustrated I would be if I was killed in that situation. As for other people being killed/ganked, I don't really get involved unless several people witness to being ganked without a reason. If I see an alliance-player attack a horde-player, the horde-player might have started it, so I just don't care enough to help.

    I don't want this to become a "world pvp is annoying" or a thread for whining, I'm just really curious how you view world pvp and what ticks you off. Do you just attack everyone when you have the chance, or do you prefer leaving them alone? I have a friend who has a logic that goes: "kill them before they kill you", and that's another approach I've seen with some people.

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    I play Alliance. The only thing more filthy than a horde is an alliance censer user who ganks his own faction. I will kill these bastards on sight. I onced teamed up with an orc hunter to kill some gnome warlock with 800k hp (legit stuff, Blizzard). Unfortunately, they almost never gank alone, so it's pretty difficult to bring retribution to these traitors.

    I don't go around ganking people. I need motivation and best motivation for me is when the bastards are asking for it either directly by attacking alliance players OR rp-like by attacking alliance npcs. I feel no motivation to gank randoms.

    I liked the wpvp on Lion's Landing quest zone because ganking horde was both tied to rp as well as having direct motivation with often clashes between the factions.

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    Well a few ground rules ive always kept.

    No one 10 levels lower.
    No one on a boss / escort.
    No one whos having a 1v1.

    Other than that, if its red its dead. If im trashing someone I usually let them go about their business after a few deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Well a few ground rules ive always kept.

    No one 10 levels lower.
    No one on a boss / escort.
    No one whos having a 1v1.

    Other than that, if its red its dead. If im trashing someone I usually let them go about their business after a few deaths.
    Nope, sorry, I'm gonna disagree with that. If I see a 1v1 and my faction guy is losing I will intervene, I don't care who started it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molestron View Post
    Nope, sorry, I'm gonna disagree with that. If I see a 1v1 and my faction guy is losing I will intervene, I don't care who started it.
    Only reason I dont is because I hate it when people gang up on me in a perfectly good duel. But 99% of the time I usually just judge the situation, and then decide whether or not to gank someone. Back when people used to roam in groups it was usually "come near us and you die".

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    Alliance player here. If I see Hordie McHorde doing quests/farming/whatever else a few yards away from me, I'll usually leave him alone unless he attacks me first, has previously done something to piss me off, or I otherwise know him to be a dick. I'll usually step in and help if I see said Horde player attempting to gank an Alliance player, unless said Alliance player is someone I know to be a dick, in which case I will /salute the Horde player and go on about my business.

    Also, I was usually one of the first responders if someone in guild chat complained about being ganked by Horde. Unless I'm in the middle of a raid or something I can't immediately leave, I'll drop what I'm doing and be on my way out there.

    So, in other words, I'm not really one of those "IF IT'S RED IT'S DEAD!!!!111111" people. I will usually mind my own business and leave Hordies alone unless they give me a reason. Most of the time, I'm not the one who started it. But if they DO give me a reason, it's fucking on.
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    PvP of any sort has no place in the game outside of battlegrounds and arena, Even then it would make very little difference to me if they where to remove PVP from the game all together.
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    There seems to be only ganking of questing lowies around lately (or maybe they just don't attack my mainchar), which is no wonder, since Blizzard does anything they can to encourage that. It's definitely the only noticeable change cross realm zones brought along besides loading times where zones meet.

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    I have also met people who will gank others depending on things like: 1. Their name (if it's silly) 2. Their guild-name 3. Their title 4. Their mount 5. Nationality (Like if the name or guild is in a language that reveals the person is from country X)

    I find this fascinating. haha
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    I liked it back in TBC, where ganking a low level (meaning 5-10, below you) didn't necessarily mean auto-win. When gear inflation started going through the roof in Cata, it started becoming just a pain. 80 to 81 was a big difference (when not raid geared), and 82 against an 80 means easy ganking. Screwed with regular leveling bg's too. It is mainly why I switched to a PvE server, ganking/griefing was made all too easy, and bg's are still available to PvE servers.

    It would be more enjoyable if world pvp had level restrictions to prevent one-shots and auto-win situations.

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    I'm Alliance and if I see a horde I mostly /wave and mind my own business, but I have had that backfire on me more then once..
    Edit: But yeah if I see a Horde with a terrible name I attack him just for being such a fool. I hate people who use words in their name.

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    World pvp sucks, ruined by pve gear 50-60 ilvls higher than conquest gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illiterate View Post
    World pvp sucks, ruined by pve gear 50-60 ilvls higher than conquest gear.
    +1, Especially since Blizzard incentivises going out in the World more with Rarespawning Mobs and worldbosses. Blizzard Logic: Do PvE for best PvP Gear, buy Arena Wins PvP for best entry-Level PvE Gearing up (or while the raids are closed at expansion launch pvp Conquest gear is the best PvE gear also).

    OT I'm killing people in the following situations:
    -We are competing for something, like a Rare Mob or Questing-related matters. (When players are low level I always try emotes /warn or /shoo or something to make it evident i want them gone, instead of just attacking
    -When I have been attacked first, especially by a group. Then I get my best PvP geared toon, i.e. someone with heroic Raid Gear, and kill them. Repeatedly.


    What I hate are max lvl lowbee zone campers who camp at dark Portal and kill everyone who portals to blasted Lands, or who redo old zones for Achievment or something and kill lowbees just on sight for no reason. And mostly I hate people who camp low lvl questgiver NPCs and kill them as well as the questing players. I thought the South Park Episode "make love not Warcraft" was some joke but some Areas of WoW have even creepier people residing than that episode's villain
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    I feel like it's just fluff at this point. People have a very romanticized view of what WPVP used to be, or "should" be, when 90% of the time it was always grossly unfair and easily avoidable. WPVP was at its zenith when players had an incentive to do it, like in vanilla, or when the zones were busier, server communities were (a little) tighter, and you were forced to interact with players, like on Quel'Danas. God that place was paradise. So many hours of my life spent there...

    The game doesn't really lend itself to WPVP as well nowadays either. There's zero incentive to leave cities, there are a lot less players in leveling zones in general, and well... people just don't care anymore, I guess. I know I don't. Stopping to oneshot some level 40 in the hope that it would whine to its friends and come to make war with you was an amusing kill a few years ago; now it's a waste of time.

    WPVP for me nowadays is just the first day or two of that new super busy zone coming out, and killing everyone in sight in it. 5.1 and 2 were good examples.
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    I think world PvP should be removed

    then again it's already none existent on PvE servers so whatever... I find PvP odd in social games

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I think world PvP should be removed

    then again it's already none existent on PvE servers so whatever... I find PvP odd in social games
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    My only gripe with PvP is Blizzard changing abilities for it that affects none PvPers

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    It sucks. Not because the idea is bad, but class balance and Ilvl scaling have made it a lot less fun.
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