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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxlax View Post
    Playerbase size doesn't signal much... HoN and Dota has way higher skillcap which results in way more skillful play that I've yet to see anything remotely close to in LoL.
    Yes but LoL is still the number one played game in Korean PC bangs by a mile. Gotta remember that DOTA2 JUST launched over there and they will have their first large tournament next year. We'll see if they switch.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirri View Post
    Woah calm down and hold off on the net rage, badass.
    Don't you have your bi-annual "Go out of the house and talk to a girl" event coming up ?

    No need for mockery. -Azshira
    What mockery ? I was referring to Halloween and sexy cat women, sexy nurses etc.. Hell if you prefer raiding to that, I would be very surprised. Some of these moderator actions leave me truly baffled
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  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirri View Post
    What mockery ? I was referring to Halloween and sexy cat women, sexy nurses etc.. Hell if you prefer raiding to that, I would be very surprised. Some of these moderator actions leave me truly baffled
    LOL /10char

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Megamisama View Post
    Europe has a lot more dedicated heroic raiders, but that's mainly due to the player base being older. People don't have to have second jobs in Europe and they often don't have to have a job while studying, so it's kinda expected for the EU player base to ahead when it comes to raiding.
    You dont seem very knowledgable about life in Europe at all.
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  5. #165
    ^every country is different, but finland, denmark and norway are all awesome countries.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Danshot View Post
    ^every country is different, but finland, denmark and norway are all awesome countries.
    Sweden is awesome too but norway is the best! And I'm not mocking sweden or swedish people (@Azshira)
    Last edited by Mirri; 2013-11-02 at 05:38 PM. Reason: You never know with some of these mods around..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirri View Post
    Sweden is awesome too but norway is the best! And I'm not mocking sweden or swedish people (@Azshira)
    There is no need to talk down on a mod when you obviously were being sarcastic and mocking another poster. No one has ever called halloween a "Go out of the house and talk to a girl" event. Covering your tracks with the so called holiday when you get an infraction, then pretending like the mod is way out of line, is just silly.

    OT: I find this thread becoming kind of saddening with people throwing back and forth what their thoughts of other countries are without too much knowledge of said country. Random facts about income/education/healthcare/time off work/internet MS/time zones etc. to make excuses or explanations as to why so and so has or has not killed a boss yet seems to baffle me. I would be more interested in the specific mechanics or actually DPS/HPS requirement issues as to what these people are having a hard time with on Garrosh more than the socioeconomic strife that is causing them to not be able to raid enough. What is it about heroic Garrosh that is stumping people in 10 man that has been doable in 25? That is my question.
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    No idea why, but NA players/teams are normally last in many different games when it comes to ESports. Would be cool for a university to do an actual study into this topic.
    As an EU player, I guess its just because we are super l337
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  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by royals View Post
    There is no need to talk down on a mod when you obviously were being sarcastic and mocking another poster. No one has ever called halloween a "Go out of the house and talk to a girl" event. Covering your tracks with the so called holiday when you get an infraction, then pretending like the mod is way out of line, is just silly.

    OT: I find this thread becoming kind of saddening with people throwing back and forth what their thoughts of other countries are without too much knowledge of said country. Random facts about income/education/healthcare/time off work/internet MS/time zones etc. to make excuses or explanations as to why so and so has or has not killed a boss yet seems to baffle me. I would be more interested in the specific mechanics or actually DPS/HPS requirement issues as to what these people are having a hard time with on Garrosh more than the socioeconomic strife that is causing them to not be able to raid enough. What is it about heroic Garrosh that is stumping people in 10 man that has been doable in 25? That is my question.
    This thread is discussing why multiple EU 10mans have managed to kill it while not a single US 10 man has killed it. That's why discussions are veering towards other reasons other than gaming mainly due to the fact that the bosses are the exact same in both regions.

    Discussing 10v25 is a infractable offence on the forums. People have been banned Don't try to steer the conversation down that path.

    And if you aren't able to see my previous posts as a cheeky joke rather than an attempt to talk down to a mod (who has done nothing to me), I may need to work on my joke telling skills then. (You are probably going to pass this off as another attempt to cover my tracks anyway if I know your kind)
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  11. #171
    LoL. WoW is super easy now.
    My guild one shot Garrosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    LoL. WoW is super easy now.
    My guild one shot Garrosh.
    Yeah mine too, shame about the loot though. They really should increase the LFR drop rates...

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuul View Post
    Yeah mine too, shame about the loot though. They really should increase the LFR drop rates...
    No, our guild is LFR realm first. Possiblely world first.
    Too bad, people are biased and don't keep track of LFR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispotter View Post
    No idea why, but NA players/teams are normally last in many different games when it comes to ESports. Would be cool for a university to do an actual study into this topic.
    As an EU player, I guess its just because we are super l337
    The americans can't help it, they've probably blown up half of their teammates

  15. #175
    a month late, good game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glogz View Post
    a month late, good game.
    Grats Nightmare Asylum!

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    Grats Nightmare Asylum, took them 13 days which is comparable to the amount of time it took most of the eu guilds that killed it.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by kittycovox View Post
    and i suggest you reading a bit closer. 10man heroic garrosh in Murica has not been slained.

    eitherway. majority of the "better" guilds in the US have for a long time been 25man. EU is more of a 10 area (dont ask me why this is)

    also this tier seems a bit easier, atleast for some fights- on 25man. (no not stating x setting is harder than y, simply saying that some fights has their advantages and disadvantages in both settings)
    Meh, the only real notable ones are thok on 10m, siegecrafter on 25m.

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Anecdotal evidence of an unnamed and therefore unknown example..
    Let's look at a prominent example, of a well known and respected top guild in the world, shall we?
    PARAGON...... From their website, and their FAQ..

    keep in mind, this was written when Cata was current, and World first race for DW kill was on..
    http://www.paragon.fi/articles/paragon-qa-we-answered


    So we see, that's not quite what you are saying here..
    Also, it's fairly known amongst those who frequently visit or visited the top guilds websites, how they actually raid... Ensidia too..
    Ensidia had an app requirements list up prior to Cata, which clearly stated how you must be able to basically raid 24/7 up until the World First race is over.
    Most of them falling back to the probably most casual approach once they are done.. Raiding once a week.

    Anyhow....
    College costs an arm and a leg in the US... Students need to work a lot more than EU students have to.
    Regular Jobs.... EU members have shorter work week hours (generally), and the income is normally higher, hence they don't have to work so long, or even take up 2 jobs, unlike many Americans have to.
    On that note, many Americans need the second job also because Americans have a tendency to live off credit cards, buying all kinds of stuff they couldn't afford. EU residents usually don't do that. They spend the money they have, and maybe one or the other smaller loan. That's a general tendency, conditions may vary by country..
    And last but not least, the infrastructure. On a task where every digit point of output matters, the internet speed is a key factor. The infrastructure in the EU generally is way ahead on that end. The US neglected that part brutally. The once leading country on telecommunication and information tech, allowed itself to fall behind by about 10 years in technology. In many rural parts it's even further behind.
    All good points although frankly I have no idea how anyone who raids in world first guilds manages to hold down a job of any kind, unless it's super casual work and they can just not work for a couple of weeks every now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    LoL. WoW is super easy now.
    My guild one shot Garrosh.
    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    No, our guild is LFR realm first. Possiblely world first.
    Too bad, people are biased and don't keep track of LFR.
    What the hell did I just read?
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  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    All good points although frankly I have no idea how anyone who raids in world first guilds manages to hold down a job of any kind, unless it's super casual work and they can just not work for a couple of weeks every now and then.
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