WW III, What would happen to NA?

[PBitt]

Terrible post, explain your reasoning or don't reply, kind of a very simple argument when discussion something on the internet.

Um...okay...because they are allies with the United States, and they are not allies with China and Russia (who are allies by the way). It's very simple, if they had to choose a side, they are going to side with their allies.

[eodusaf]

The bigger question is why you assume a war between the US and its allies and China/Russia would have even the smallest chance of playing out on US soil. It's not like China can mobilize... at all. Russia could theoretically mobilize to the US, but there's no chance in hell they'd get anything close to land. US defensive/offensive superiority in water and air is 10 to 1 over Russia or China.

This^^

No country right now has the mobile lift available to invade north america, not even russia.
Really any "WW3" scenario is asia/russia invading europe, which probably wouldnt happen, or the arab nations invading isreal, which is the more likely of the 2, even if its not really likely at all

[Mormolyce]

Er, America would laugh and crush Russia like it's nothing, might get a bit bruised taking down China.

Don't worry though, it's not going to happen.

[eodusaf]

Because with the exception of Israel, the US is their military force. Without them, they would have no means to defend themselves. ESPECIALLY Canada. Oh, and I guess there's that whole other thing about the US holding up the world's economy too.

Yeah, Israel sure needed our help in the Yon Kippur war, and the 6 day war (or were those two the same war, i forget, but there were 2 back in the 60s and 7s)

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Um...okay...because they are allies with the United States, and they are not allies with China and Russia (who are allies by the way) and are also allies with radical countries like Iran and Pakistan. It's very simple, if they had to choose a side, they are going to side with their allies.

False, Russia and China arent really allies, they cant stand each other

[PBitt]

Yeah, Israel sure needed our help in the Yon Kippur war, and the 6 day war (or were those two the same war, i forget, but there were 2 back in the 60s and 7s)

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False, Russia and China arent really allies, they cant stand each other

They can't stand each other, but they are in fact military allies. Sure they aren't the best of buds but no one has ever been best friend's with Russia yet they allied with them all the same for beneficial reasons. The USA were allies with Russia in WW2 and we pretty much liked them then as much as China does now, but they were allies all the same. Not being able to stand each other does not mean they will not work together to fight a mutual enemy, they are allies, and it doesn't mean they would be fighting side-by-side if this theoretical war were to happen.

This war wouldn't happen because it's as stupid as most of these posts, but the OP's question (aboot Canada) has been long since answered, I think. The OP was simply asking what Canada would do if China and Russia waged war on the USA but we're talking about the three most powerful nations in the world, so we're talking World War 3, and Canada would side with the USA as they have in the past. Not saying it's a realistic scenario, because it's not, and though China and Russia vs the world is a ridiculous scenario, China and Russia being allies in a fairly major war is not that far-fetched.

[Pull My Finger]

The kids on MMO Champ are a massively war-obsessed bunch.

[DaedricTV]

The thing most of you seem to be ignoring is that, this hypothetical war, wouldn't happen unless both sides were equal.

Comparing the US vs Russian/China now is a meaningless argument, unless the US was the aggressor against both Russia and China (and if it was, it would receive next to no support from any nation in the world).

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False, Russia and China arent really allies, they cant stand each other

True, although there is such a thing as alliance of convenience, countries which aren't allies can ally themselves against a bigger aggressor.

Although the idea of China being a country interested in world domination kinda shows a lack of knowledge of China's history and culture.

[Marc2001]

Because with the exception of Israel, the US is their military force. Without them, they would have no means to defend themselves. ESPECIALLY Canada. Oh, and I guess there's that whole other thing about the US holding up the world's economy too.

The US is holding up the world's economy? Yeah with there Chinese/Israeli Credit Cards...lol

[Mukor]

Russia and China tolerate each other for the better of their country. China has also funded the US for years now, starving america of money is more devastating than a war on american soil. but if china goes and discontinues to aid the US financially, well that means half of the population would starve cause they would be job, money, and homeless. then the US and china are financially fucked and that will have a huge impact on the rest of the world some good . and some bad.

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allies with radical countries like Iran and Pakistan.

- Dude you need to read up on history and geo-political relations; Pakistan is designated as a Major non-NATO ally of the United States.

[Tastyfish]

What's with all these war questions lately? It's like people have some sick hard on fetish for war.

Seriously cut it out already.

On the bad topic: Canada and the US are to like minded to be opposed assuming current political structure is maintained.

It's a mutation of the Political rage porn threads.

[Rabidwhale]

WW3 would likely be nuclear and not involve troops at all. Zombie Apoc incoming.

[Kellhound]

To put it simply, Canada and the U.S. are close NATO allies with a common air defense. An attack on either is legally considered an attack on both, and all other NATO contries should the alliance be called to recognize it as such.

[PBitt]

- Dude you need to read up on history and geo-political relations; Pakistan is designated as a Major non-NATO ally of the United States.

Yep, we allied with them during the Cold War because they were anti-communist, and we now waive billions to cooperate in fighting the Taliban, but they are pretty much a terrorist nation. Perhaps I made my point stupidly since it is 3 a.m., but Pakistan and the USA are not on friendly terms in the slightest but there is no way to really back out of the alliance now that it's been made. My point was, however, that neither Russia nor China have the list of allies the USA has.

[Los Tiffin]

You people have some serious issues with fear, you instilled it to yourself, nobody wants to attack you. China is already screwing the rest of the world economically and going to completely opposite way from the scenario that you're imagining and Russia really doesn't give a damn about far countries, they hold their surrounding countries by balls (it's not really that visible but they do) and trying to present itself as some major world force but it's not their primary goal. The only thing you should be afraid is yourself. American society need thorough change, you have two parties, one seems to care about middle and low class, other just don't give a damn about anything but rich ones and how to increase their wealth. And majority of your nation is programmed that way that they support (insert party name) without questioning. All your actions in past decade were unnecessary, from Afganistan to Iraq, all of that could be done with much less cost and less fuss. But your rich class doesn't care if government money is spent on war or on benefits of their own people, after all it's not their money. Their money comes from "investments" in "conquered" countries. I could go on and on but I know most of you will just roll with your eyes. Sorry for grammar mistakes.

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that neither Russia nor China have the list of allies the USA has.

With the recent discoveries of US' acts of treason towards allies (Spying of presidents, stealing econoic secrets), dont hold your hopes too high that the european nations will support your causes, if the current climate doesent change, then dont count on having support from the European nations. - thoese discoveries are just iceing on the cake after a decade where european nations aided wars on false US claims ( Weapons of mass destruction anyone?).


Notice the lack of bombings atm in Syria despite the US rallying for it? - The scorned european nations dont trust the US when it comes to foregin relations anymore - lets see how long till NATO gets dismantled.

[Deleted]

If Russia or China decides to go into a war with the US they would first have the issues of having the EU on the west and Japan/Korea on the east, and they would most definitely be up for an action.

Anyways, the scenario of ww3 is pretty much impossible in todays world.

[Kellhound]

With the recent discoveries of US' acts of treason towards allies (Spying of presidents, stealing econoic secrets), dont hold your hopes too high that the european nations will support your causes, if the current climate doesent change, then dont count on having support from the European nations. - thoese discoveries are just iceing on the cake after a decade where european nations aided wars on false US claims ( Weapons of mass destruction anyone?).


Notice the lack of bombings atm in Syria despite the US rallying for it? - The scorned european nations dont trust the US when it comes to foregin relations anymore - lets see how long till NATO gets dismantled.

Europe knows full well that without U.S. support they would be laughing stocks militarily. And spying on your friends is hardly new or novel.

[Chain Chungus]

There will be no WW3. Any conventional war between super powers would spiral into nuclear. It doesn't matter how hard they tried to avoid it.

If it was going to happen, it would have happened during the cold war. Thankfully, even the most warmongering crazies didn't think it wise to attempt to rule a world of ash and bones.

[DaedricTV]

If Russia or China decides to go into a war with the US they would first have the issues of having the EU on the west and Japan/Korea on the east, and they would most definitely be up for an action.

You seem to live in an imaginary world.

Japan can't afford to have a war against Russia or China, Korea has no reason to have a war with China or Russia, especially considering how isolated, how vulnerable it is and it's location (it borders China and Russia is a geological stone throw a way), not to mention North Korea...

The EU would be up for joining the US in a major war against Russia and China? The EU has no reason at all to join the US in anything, never mind going to war, especially with Russia which basically provides the majority of EU's energy.

The US would receive very little support from Europe, even less from Japan or Korea.

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Europe knows full well that without U.S. support they would be laughing stocks militarily. And spying on your friends is hardly new or novel.

Support in what? Remind me again what conflicts that 'Europe' has asked for the US support in? If Europe was a combined entity, as you seem to suggestion, there is no enemy that realistically exists, which would trouble it at all.

Imaginary enemies are an American construct, not a European one.