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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    If someone was "banging" on the front door why the fuck would you open it up to shoot them? You barricade that shit and call the cops.
    there are some states that have a stand your ground law. Only a select few though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    there are some states that have a stand your ground law. Only a select few though.
    Which ranks up there as one of the dumbest laws of all time. Just legalizes idiots to kill because they feel like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    They moved the body and never called the police after the shooting.

    They are fucked.
    That's not what other articles are reporting.

    http://rt.com/usa/detroit-woman-kill...king-help-337/
    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23...nse-gone-wrong
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/us/michigan-woman-shot/

    Answering your door with the barrel of a gun is asinine, but we don't know what happened or the circumstances surrounding the interaction between the victim and the homeowner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    there are some states that have a stand your ground law. Only a select few though.
    You're life has to be threatened. He will have to prove that she attacked/threatened him after he voluntarily opened the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payday View Post
    You're life has to be threatened. He will have to prove that she attacked/threatened him after he voluntarily opened the door.
    And he felt so threatened he called the cops immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    If someone was "banging" on the front door why the fuck would you open it up to shoot them? You barricade that shit and call the cops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Payday View Post
    Then don't answer the door and call the police. Defend yourself if she presents a threat.
    I was going to say "inb4 all the arm chair self defense experts show up" but...too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Which ranks up there as one of the dumbest laws of all time. Just legalizes idiots to kill because they feel like it.

    No. It doesn't. Even when people use it as a defense they need to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinykong View Post
    I was going to say "inb4 all the arm chair self defense experts show up" but...too late.
    What are you doing in here then? Please

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    Yeh umm This death has nothing to do with SYG (if all info is to be believed).
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinykong View Post
    I was going to say "inb4 all the arm chair self defense experts show up" but...too late.
    You opened that front door there pal. Don't blame us for attacking a terrible assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    A robber would also knock on your door to wake you up.
    I thought robbers politely asked you if hey could rob your house, and would go away if you told them no...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payday View Post
    You're life has to be threatened. He will have to prove that she attacked/threatened him after he voluntarily opened the door.
    Not in Michigan, apparently.

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ybh...me=mcl-780-951

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    I wouldn't really call this Travyon Martin 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payday View Post
    What are you doing in here then? Please
    Pointing out how ridiculous your "barricade" in place nonsense is. This isn't Hollywood. Incoming "but it was just a single, black female."

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    You opened that front door there pal. Don't blame us for attacking a terrible assertion.
    Right, because just closing the door and calling the police when presented with a plausible threat is the smart choice...I'm waiting with eager anticipation for Wells to show up and start saying his dog and a bat is all the protection he needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I wouldn't really call this Travyon Martin 2.0.
    I thought this was closer to the football player. It was the police that shot him but the circumstances are similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinykong View Post
    Yeah, and "reasonable belief" would hold that if you're scared of someone standing outside your front door you don't open it and call the cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinykong View Post
    Pointing out how ridiculous your "barricade" in place nonsense is. This isn't Hollywood. Incoming "but it was just a single, black female."
    Locking your door and calling the police is sensible though. "Barricading" is a figure of speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinykong View Post
    Pointing out how ridiculous your "barricade" in place nonsense is. This isn't Hollywood. Incoming "but it was just a single, black female."
    Yeah, opening the front door to a perceived threat totally isn't "nonsense".

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    At this point its hard to comment on anything, Maybe the home owner answered the door and the lady went nutso demanding to be let in pushing on the door ect.

    Or Maybe dude just stuck the gun out the window while she knocked and blew her brains out.

    Forming strong opinions with little information is about the dumbest thing you can do.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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