Frost mage nerf reverted?

[TomGreen]

I was sure they got a nerf to their mastery in 5.4 but they are still hitting like trucks. Where is this damage still coming from??

[zenga]

Mage mastery got reworked, they now have icicles.

[Deleted]

Can someone translate "mage nerfs" for me? can't find it anywhere

[Chaoslux]

Their mastery was changed in 5.4, it now stores a % of Frostbolt damage, and unleash up to 5 stored icicles over a period of 5 seconds. Instead of just doing straight-up bonus damage to frozen targets. So their damage output wasnt reduced, but it became less bursty.
Lots of people started screaming they were nerfed to the ground without actual proof.

[Snuggli]

Their Mastery got removed, which was a ~30-40% nerf to damage into deep freezes and novas. Blizzard then buffed Ice Lance by 43%, so damage into deep was left mostly unchanged.

The only things that got nerfed were Frost Orb and Frost Bolt damage into deep and novas.


http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...cial-PTR-Notes

[zenyatta]

Can someone translate "mage nerfs" for me? can't find it anywhere

They now crit for 400 trillion, down from 400 trillion and three. No. I dunno. Frost mages that I play with, their numbers seem proportionate their gear.

[Molestron]

The nerf only intended to stop the autowin "Oh shit I'm deep frozen. I'm dead" bullshit.

[Deleted]

The nerf only intended to stop the autowin "Oh shit I'm deep frozen. I'm dead" bullshit.

Now that mages are getting geared everyone is getting 1shot in a deep once more.
The only thing that changed for mage is that they only spam icelance into their deepfreeze target.

Without peels, a decent mage easily takes 70% of your hp in a deepfreeze.

[Dumaw]

Can someone translate "mage nerfs" for me? can't find it anywhere

lol frost mage nerf

Its like the big foot

you gonna hear about it, watch some dubious documentary, but thats it

[Deleted]

lol frost mage nerf

Its like the big foot

you gonna hear about it, watch some dubious documentary, but thats it

Pretty much this. Whatever these so called nerfs where, they werent enough. Mages are as op as ever.
The only reason people dont see a million threads about this is because warriors are currently so insane op
that all the qq is focused on them for the moment.

[Terahertz]

Their Mastery got removed, which was a ~30-40% nerf to damage into deep freezes and novas. Blizzard then buffed Ice Lance by 43%, so damage into deep was left mostly unchanged.

The only things that got nerfed were Frost Orb and Frost Bolt damage into deep and novas.


http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...cial-PTR-Notes

Basically their burst has been kind of buffed. Icicles can still hit like a truck, 10k per icicle or so x5.

[Strykert]

Mages are really weak in this patch, can't wait WoD

[Deleted]

Mages are really weak in this patch, can't wait WoD

that comment made me check your post history to make sure if you were someone that uses sarcasm alot.. guess not

[Deleted]

what changed was that instead of casting a frostbolt into deep you replace that bolt with 2 more ice lances now for even more damage

[Lolretadin]

Yeah, Mages need a bit of a nerf.
And by a bit, I mean Ice Lance should get a flat 50% damage nerf.

[TJ]

Mages and nerfs don't go in the same sentence, unless that sentence is Mages will never receive any nerfs.

[watsiin]

Did it actually get reverted? WT

[Dânce]

They get 2 fingers of frost charges, a brain freeze proc, pop incanters ward, max icicles, trinkets, hit alter time, drop a deep or nova on you and proceed to blow your face off. You'd think that would be the stars aligning, but it happens a lot and it's how they dish out lethal burst in kill windows. Some mages just spam ice lance mindlessly and that's fine, it's the good ones that can set up burst that scare the bejeebus out of you.

[draconith1]

They get 2 fingers of frost charges, a brain freeze proc, pop incanters ward, max icicles, trinkets, hit alter time, drop a deep or nova on you and proceed to blow your face off. You'd think that would be the stars aligning, but it happens a lot and it's how they dish out lethal burst in kill windows. Some mages just spam ice lance mindlessly and that's fine, it's the good ones that can set up burst that scare the bejeebus out of you.

This is so true. We have to line all of this up before being able to put out a lot of burst. Here, since yall seem to be having trouble with mages (obviously since you made/replied to this thread.) let me help you out. Did we just pop alter time with full buffs? Get ready to play defensive for a second, stun silence, cc us, if you can DISPEL US. Did we just deep freeze you? Have your partner throw out one silence and deep freeze burst will get negated. Our damage is easy to predict.

edit: more tips on shutting down our burst

-dispel our mage bomb. No mage bomb= no brain freeze = no icicles to stack

-don't arbitrarily dps into our incanters ward. This ones pretty damn hard since a sneeze can break it but a common theme here, Incanters ward can be dispelled.

-kill our pet every time it's up. No pet = no guaranteed FoF procs and a pretty large chunk of sustained damage gone.

[Evida]

-dispel our mage bomb. No mage bomb= no brain freeze = no icicles to stack

yes, and then dispel nova, dispel DF, dispel poly and RoF effect, but oh crap...8 sec cd on dispel!

Incanters ward can be dispelled.

Of course, once you pop it every dispeller will run after you and spam dispel to remove it considering at least 3 covering buffs over it.

Your burst is like everyone's else, I just hate you having 2 blocks and invisibility you don't have to choose between like dk's have to choose between stun, snares and mobility. And ye, skillful counterspell, forgot last time mages locked me out of school.

Don't expect mages to be nerfed just because it never happened before, I don't know for what reason...