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  1. #161
    Forcing communication does NOT make a community.

    I would not want to play any game that forces me to communicate with (potentially horrible) strangers if i am not in the mood to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    Social interactions are by choice.
    Therefore lack of a social community in a game is down to the players themselves.
    LFR/LFD expose you to more of the community than closed guild runs do, so any lack of socialisation in those formats is down to player choice.
    Forcing communication does not equal making community.
    LFR and LFD ruined the social experience for me. I remember being a level 13 warrior 9 years ago doing quests in westfall when I got a whisper asking if I would like to do Deadmines. I didn't know who it was but I looked around and saw a level 15 priest. I joined it and experienced my first dungeon run. Sadly people now a days will NEVER get to experience what I did on my first day of WoW. Its sad but without LFR and LFD I fear the game would have died a long time ago.
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  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    except when it is a choice... how many times do u go in lfr/lfd and start chatting up with people? I Bet not often... and when u do u may not get any response because the other people made a choice of not responding... how is that blizzard's fault ?
    Its not often, I'm the guy who says hi/gz/answers question. But when blizzard removes group content in the world that previously encouraged group play they are telling people - Do it yourself - And when they implements automatic systems instead of the player interaction we had earlier they are clearly discouraging people communicating.

    People are lazy bastards and will always take the shortest route as a designer its your responsibility, to both know this and encourage/discourage it. I'm not saying blizzard doesn't know this, I'm sure they do but in my opinion its the wrong choice.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    Without lfd, your social interaction would literally just be
    'lf1m healer for hc'
    'healer, i've done the dungeon before'
    '*invite*'

    That would be your entire interaction. Nobody has to talk after that. You're not talking about 'social interaction,' you're talking about inconvenience. Join a guild. Get to know those you play with on a regular basis. Form groups, do bgs with them, do raids with them, tool around Timeless Isle with them, get into voice and play something other than WoW with them... that's social interaction.
    Even though that's not much to begin with, those are people that you might actually see again. People that you can add to your friends list and ask to join your groups in the future. The people that you group with a few times can become friends. Whereas LFR or LFD no one talks unless its negative because you're never going to see those people again.

  5. #165
    only social interaction in lfr is "kick so and so". either for being afk, a DC, refuses to release and run back or meter numbers being too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Its not often, I'm the guy who says hi/gz/answers question. But when blizzard removes group content in the world that previously encouraged group play they are telling people - Do it yourself - And when they implements automatic systems instead of the player interaction we had earlier they are clearly discouraging people communicating.

    People are lazy bastards and will always take the shortest route as a designer its your responsibility, to both know this and encourage/discourage it. I'm not saying blizzard doesn't know this, I'm sure they do but in my opinion its the wrong choice.
    but they are adding that group content back in WoD from what they said... random events that aren't soloable and whatnot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    Without lfd, your social interaction would literally just be
    'lf1m healer for hc'
    'healer, i've done the dungeon before'
    '*invite*'

    That would be your entire interaction. Nobody has to talk after that. You're not talking about 'social interaction,' you're talking about inconvenience. Join a guild. Get to know those you play with on a regular basis. Form groups, do bgs with them, do raids with them, tool around Timeless Isle with them, get into voice and play something other than WoW with them... that's social interaction.
    Exactly, the interaction was always pretty minimal, and for the most part really tedious and inconvenient. There was no more social interaction once a run put together in trade chat got started then there is now in a group assembled by the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    but they are adding that group content back in WoD from what they said... random events that aren't soloable and whatnot...
    I'm hoping they do, I really do :>

  9. #169
    Was waiting for Huolon yesterday when SoO LFR popped up. Asked a random if he would be so kind to notify me of huolon spawned.
    He whispered me 5 mins later "Huolon is dead now".

    Its a reflection of the inbred anti-social society we allow to exist.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Was waiting for Huolon yesterday when SoO LFR popped up. Asked a random if he would be so kind to notify me of huolon spawned.
    He whispered me 5 mins later "Huolon is dead now".

    Its a reflection of the inbred anti-social society we allow to exist.
    It is quite a revelation indeed except it says quite a bit about you.

    First of all why would any random care about you? You're not their friend. You can become their friend, but you're not since you don't know them. People who expect favors from random people they don't know are known as slackers.

    Second, it was you who was going to slack in LFR to kill Huolon. And what for really? He spawns every hour or so.

    Third, if anything the random told you to finish your LFR (after you done Huolon would get approx back up again) which meant you wouldn't slack in your LFR by teleporting out. The random you complain about did the best for the LFR group he did not even know about.
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    @OP: If you really cared about it, you would talk to random strangers in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Was waiting for Huolon yesterday when SoO LFR popped up. Asked a random if he would be so kind to notify me of huolon spawned.
    He whispered me 5 mins later "Huolon is dead now".
    Its a reflection of the inbred anti-social society we allow to exist.
    Yes, people talked to you and were too late.
    If you had a point, which you don't, the guy wouldn't have whispered at all.
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  12. #172
    community has died since introduction of cross realm lfd back in wotlk. lfd/lfg/lfr has ruined any reason to gather folks from your own realm and do stuff and forge friendships n stuff.......
    everything that required social interaction has been ripped away. wow is a zombie of a game, the only social interaction I see now if I log on Is "anyone got blingtron?" or "blingtron in org ah" lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    Was waiting for Huolon yesterday when SoO LFR popped up. Asked a random if he would be so kind to notify me of huolon spawned.
    He whispered me 5 mins later "Huolon is dead now".

    Its a reflection of the inbred anti-social society we allow to exist.
    Try harder... Community isn't here to serve your need.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by owain glyndwr View Post
    community has died since introduction of cross realm lfd back in wotlk. lfd/lfg/lfr has ruined any reason to gather folks from your own realm and do stuff and forge friendships n stuff.......
    everything that required social interaction has been ripped away. wow is a zombie of a game, the only social interaction I see now if I log on Is "anyone got blingtron?" or "blingtron in org ah" lol
    Again, this obviously isn't a bad thing to most people, because if it was they'd be socializing anyway. If you have to be forced to talk to other people, then you aren't very sociable either. Nothing's stopping people who want to be social from being so.

  15. #175
    Don't worry, no flying will fix it!


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