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    2012 FBI Annual Hate Crime Statistics.

    Shows a decrease! Good job everyone! lol
    Anyhow, figured I would throw this out here because stuff contained in it usually comes up in arguments and it's a good source of info to have aboot.

    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/november/annual-hate-crime-statistics-show-slight-decease/annual-hate-crime-statistics-show-slight-decease


    I did find this part about quite a larger portion of white people being the aggressors in the reported cases interesting, because our media sure as hell does not portray it as such. But w/e that is just my little note of interest.
    Happy reading.


    Edit: here is another link for more detailed info too! http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2012
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    Congrats on reducing your Hate Crime statistics America!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tastyfish View Post

    I did find this part about quite a larger portion of white people being the aggressors in the reported cases interesting, because our media sure as hell does not portray it as such. But w/e that is just my little note of interest.
    Happy reading.
    Well considering that your notion I'll show you a little notion of my own. If you just strictly stare percentages it's ~230% more likely to meet black hate crime offender than a white one by demographics. Calculated from USA demographic percentages and those crime offender statistics' percentages. I'm sure there's more white to black racial crimes in America but I think it has partly to do that you've far more white than black people too. But that's just math. But I also agree that both should have equal screen time and attention.

    Congratulations for decreasing stupid and useless crimes. Maybe world takes steps forward slowly but steadily. One can always hope that someday there would be equality and not useless hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocThor View Post
    Well considering that your notion I'll show you a little notion of my own. If you just strictly stare percentages it's ~230% more likely to meet black hate crime offender than a white one by demographics. Calculated from USA demographic percentages and those crime offender statistics' percentages. I'm sure there's more white to black racial crimes in America but I think it has partly to do that you've far more white than black people too. But that's just math. But I also agree that both should have equal screen time and attention.
    Thats just math out of context.
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    I know that. Statistics are easy to interpret any way you want. They're good too when used right, but you can really pull anything out of them if you know what you're doing. Statistics are not exact science.
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    I'm going to celebrate this tremendous American event with McDonalds. Go America!

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    I kinda wonder how we rank against other countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    Hate crimes on disabled people happen? So ableism is an actual thing?
    I wouldn't be surprised if it was some Ayn Randian extremist sighting them as "unfit to work and thus mooch" or somesuch nonsense.

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    hate crimes............somehow worse than 'regular' crime
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    Black on white crimes are rarely charged as hate crimes, hate crimes would be way up if everyone were charged equally. If someone carves a swastika on a tree its a hate crime, if a black guy knocks out and kills an old white woman its a random act of violence.

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    Black on white crimes are rarely charged as hate crimes, hate crimes would be way up if everyone were charged equally. If someone carves a swastika on a tree its a hate crime, if a black guy knocks out and kills an old white woman its a random act of violence.
    Just because they happen to be black and kills a white person does not make it a hate crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    Black on white crimes are rarely charged as hate crimes, hate crimes would be way up if everyone were charged equally. If someone carves a swastika on a tree its a hate crime, if a black guy knocks out and kills an old white woman its a random act of violence.
    True, it would take a lot more from a minority to be charged for a hate crime. Kinda like for women being charged for sexual harassment.

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    I can't stand that term. Hate crime...

    Why does it matter what color the victim was? Justice is supposed to be blind. It's not a white murder, or a black murder, or an asian murder. Its just murder. Race has no place in a court room, especially as there is no way to be fair and unbiased about it. I find the whole thing unforgivably offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    I kinda wonder how we rank against other countries

    This isn't for hate crime (which is a stupid way to categorize crime) but for the overall tolerance a nation has for other types of people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polgara View Post
    Just because they happen to be black and kills a white person does not make it a hate crime.
    The thing is those thugs playing the KO game only target people that aren't black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    I can't stand that term. Hate crime...

    Why does it matter what color the victim was? Justice is supposed to be blind. It's not a white murder, or a black murder, or an asian murder. Its just murder. Race has no place in a court room, especially as there is no way to be fair and unbiased about it. I find the whole thing unforgivably offensive.
    Ok.

    Let's say I set the tree in your front yard on fire because I'm an asshole. That's, I don't know, destruction of private property, endangerment, probably some other things.

    Now let's say I do the same thing because you are white. That gives an entirely different aspect to the crime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea . I don't know that it should be a crime in itself, as you said, but it should at least be a factor in deciding the sentence.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocThor View Post
    I know that. Statistics are easy to interpret any way you want. They're good too when used right, but you can really pull anything out of them if you know what you're doing. Statistics are not exact science.
    science itself isn't an 'exact science' if you're a good empiricist.

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