Canada is smarter than the US

[Twix]

According to this new study by OECD, Canadian students rank among the smartest countries in the world while the United States rank more or less in the middle. The average for Canada was 518 while the US scored an average of 481. Here is a link to the study: http://www.oecd.org/pisa/keyfindings...s-overview.pdf

Discuss.

[Tradewind]

From the Desk of the Minister for Bullshit We Already Knew.

This could be fun either way.

[Deleted]

I think for how much money the UK and the US spend on education those results are atrocious.

[Rukentuts]

Discuss.

They elaborate that the "coddle culture" in the USA is what is largely to blame. When students confront a difficult problem they tend to give up, whereas students in Shanghai (who are #1) have the mentality that it is their job to solve it and not just beg for the answer or partial credit.

[Deleted]

Who would have thought

[Deleted]

They elaborate that the "coddle culture" in the USA is what is largely to blame. When students confront a difficult problem they tend to give up, whereas students in Shanghai (who are #1) have the mentality that it is their job to solve it and not just beg for the answer or partial credit.

Do people not know how to consult Google?

[Khaza-R]

Or you know, you could make more accurate, less sensational claims. Like Canada has better public school education than the US.

[Tradewind]

Do people not know how to consult Google?

I do this at a professional level. I'm in IT.

[Alcomo]

Who would have thought

Apparently not Americans! OH ZING....

I kid I kid!

[Rukentuts]

Do people not know how to consult Google?

The sad thing is that's entirely true. I don't know how this works! Instead of attempting to logically break it down, I'll just Google the answer on my smartphone!

[Deleted]

I do this at a professional level. I'm in IT.

"I do not know how to set up this query, TO GOOGLE"

5 mins later

"Problem solved mutha fucker"

Coursework complete.

[Rukentuts]

I do this at a professional level. I'm in IT.

Consulting JavaDoc or even code examples really isn't the same though.

[Xanjori]

I do this at a professional level. I'm in IT.

Google holds every IT solution ever, Im not sure why you need a degree for it.

[Deleted]

The sad thing is that's entirely true. I don't know how this works! Instead of attempting to logically break it down, I'll just Google the answer on my smartphone!

It's partly because people are OK with just having the answer rather than understanding WHY the answer is what it is.

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Google holds every IT solution ever, Im not sure why you need a degree for it.

To apply it consistently without Googling it,

[Madwolf]

America doesn't value education, simply as that.

[Twix]

Or you know, you could make more accurate, less sensational claims. Like Canada has better public school education than the US.

The public school system is also garbage in Canada. Trust me, I studied there and I did not learn much.

[Tradewind]

Google holds every IT solution ever, Im not sure why you need a degree for it.

To get hired in the first place. Because HR people are stupid as fuck.

It does also help to understand wtf the google is saying.

[Deleted]

To get hired in the first place. Because HR people are stupid as fuck.

It does also help to understand wtf the google is saying.

HR are pretty dumb all in all. Can't get a real job? Teach, can't teach? HR department!

[Tradewind]

HR are pretty dumb all in all. Can't get a real job? Teach, can't teach? HR department!

HR is by and large the biggest obstacle any budding IT nerd is going to face because they don't have a fuckin' clue and if your resume doesn't check off all of the obsequiously ridiculous requirements for a job that doesn't need them, you go into the trash bin.

[rayden54]

America doesn't value education, simply as that.

Simple as that?