Stand Your Ground Law Facing New Test In GA

[RicardoZ]

The controversial legislation that allowed George Zimmerman to walk free after gunning down unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin last year in Florida is up for another probe, but this time it will be held in a Georgia criminal court.

Actually, I'm getting ahead of myself: I hope it will be held in a Georgia criminal court, as the Walker County sheriff's department is still unsure as to whether or not it will press charges against Joe Hendrix after he shot 74 year old Alzheimer's patient Ron Westbrook.

Here's the story:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/04...-ground-debate

It's going to be interesting to see how this case plays out now that the victim is a 74 year old white man with Alzheimer's and not a 17 year old black kid in a hoodie.

[Deleted]

Boy, you aren't oozing bias are you?

[Deleted]

I do love a fair, unbiased trial.

[Orange Joe]

The controversial legislation that allowed George Zimmerman to walk free after gunning down unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin last year in Florida is up for another probe, but this time it will be held in a Georgia criminal court.

Actually, I'm getting ahead of myself: I hope it will be held in a Georgia criminal court, as the Walker County sheriff's department is still unsure as to whether or not it will press charges against Joe Hendrix after he shot 74 year old Alzheimer's patient Ron Westbrook.

Here's the story:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/04...-ground-debate

It's going to be interesting to see how this case plays out now that the victim is a 74 year old white man with Alzheimer's and not a 17 year old black kid in a hoodie.

People need to educate themselves a little. Stand your ground was not called once in Zimmermans trail. He used self defense as his reasoning.


Stand your ground =/= self defense.


This was even in your link.

A similar law in Florida gained national attention during the trial of neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman for second-degree murder in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, though the law was not a part of Zimmerman's defense strategy.

[Glormon]

Stand your ground =/= self defense.

As already stated, there's a large difference between a Self Defense scenario and one of Stand your Ground. Zimmerman's case was a self defense case and was tried as one.

Most cases of Stand your Ground usually occurs within a home.

[Khaza-R]

It's going to be interesting to see how this case plays out now that the victim is a 74 year old white man with Alzheimer's and not a 17 year old black kid in a hoodie.

You mean now that the alleged shooter had no feasible way to feel in imminent danger, which is the cornerstone of the stand-your-ground law?

Apples and oranges, my friend.

[RicardoZ]

People need to educate themselves a little. Stand your ground was not called once in Zimmermans trail. He used self defense as his reasoning.


Stand your ground =/= self defense.


This was even in your link.

Under these circumstances Joe Hendrix wouldn't have to invoke it either then, he could just say "self-defense" and walk.

What bothers me isn't so much the way we're talking about the law, it's how murder is coming to only be called murder when it's committed in a poor urban area. When somebody shoots another person in a suburb or a gated community, the excuses and semantics start flying.

[Orange Joe]

As already stated, there's a large difference between a Self Defense scenario and one of Stand your Ground. Zimmerman's case was a self defense case and was tried as one.

Most cases of Stand your Ground usually occurs within a home.

Not sure why you are quoting me? We are saying the same thing.

[Payday]

Is the shooter black? (no)

So when they don't press charges (they probably shouldn't from what I read in the article), can white people claim racism because this white victim didn't get the "preferential" treatment that a young, black Tray got?

Baiters gonna bait I guess.

[Orange Joe]

Under these circumstances Joe Hendrix wouldn't have to invoke it either then, he could just say "self-defense" and walk.

What bothers me isn't so much the way we're talking about the law, it's how murder is coming to only be called murder when it's committed in a poor urban area. When somebody shoots another person in a suburb or a gated community, the excuses and semantics start flying.

Doesn't really work like that way though. In order to say self defense you have to prove there was a danger to him.


He will have a much better case using stand your ground laws.

[Glormon]

Not sure why you are quoting me? We are saying the same thing.

Isn't it a reinforcement of what you said? I apologies if I worded it in such a way that somehow contradicted or subtracted from your post.

[Orange Joe]

Isn't it a reinforcement of what you said? I apologies if I worded it in such a way that somehow contradicted or subtracted from your post.

I wasn't sure if you were reading me wrong.

[Deleted]

Under these circumstances Joe Hendrix wouldn't have to invoke it either then, he could just say "self-defense" and walk.

What bothers me isn't so much the way we're talking about the law, it's how murder is coming to only be called murder when it's committed in a poor urban area. When somebody shoots another person in a suburb or a gated community, the excuses and semantics start flying.

Hmmm, manslaughter and murder would like a word with you. Your inherent bias clouds your rationale and makes you look silly, it's funny.

[RicardoZ]

Hmmm, manslaughter and murder would like a word with you. Your inherent bias clouds your rationale and makes you look silly, it's funny.

George Zimmerman was charged with second degree murder.

[dextersmith]

Intruders don't knock on doors til you wake up. So idiot felt he couldn't physically overpower a 72 year old with no drawn weapon, and couldn't shut the door and call the cops? I hope girl scouts and religious recruiters don't fall victim to "stand your ground" when they knock.

[Ayla]

Intruders don't knock on doors til you wake up. So idiot felt he couldn't physically overpower a 72 year old with no drawn weapon, and couldn't shut the door and call the cops? I hope girl scouts and religious recruiters don't fall victim to "stand your ground" when they knock.

I don't know about you, but my 72 year old father could still probably pick me up with 1 hand if need be.

[rhandric]

Intruders don't knock on doors til you wake up. So idiot felt he couldn't physically overpower a 72 year old with no drawn weapon, and couldn't shut the door and call the cops? I hope girl scouts and religious recruiters don't fall victim to "stand your ground" when they knock.

Do girl scouts and religious recruiters knock on doors at 4 am?

[Masark]

Do girl scouts and religious recruiters knock on doors at 4 am?

I've had JWs pestering me at 6am.

[dextersmith]

Do girl scouts and religious recruiters knock on doors at 4 am?

It could happen if one parent was like Despicable Me's Grew.

[Hraklea]

I hope girl scouts and religious recruiters don't fall victim to "stand your ground" when they knock.

Girl scouts at 4 am?!