Raidbots.com is incorrect

[mmokri]

raidbots - mages represented as best dps
WoL - actually Asian mages with 8ilvl steroids

Seems proraider is better source.

[britishbubba]

You have 95th percentile selected, it's not going to show the over the top parses.

http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Norushen/25H/all/14/60/max/

you're welcome

[Deleted]

raidbots will show the results you yourself set it to show. There is so much things you can find out by playing with the presets.

[Anzen]

Why do so many people seem to hate RaidBots on these forums?

[Slant]

Why do so many people seem to hate RaidBots on these forums?

Because they can't use them. Just like gearscore. Those can be useful tools, but they're not the end of all knowledge. People tend to forget that and dismiss it all as being wrong, because they can't fathom the data displayed.

[mmokri]

You have 95th percentile selected, it's not going to show the over the top parses.

http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Norushen/25H/all/14/60/max/

you're welcome

Ok now go to WoL and find that THESE TOP parses are by asian steroid users. I am right.

[Anzen]

Ok now go to WoL and find that THESE TOP parses are by asian steroid users. I am right.

You mispelt "Asian players who are given two lockouts and gear 8 item levels higher." btw

[britishbubba]

Ok now go to WoL and find that THESE TOP parses are by asian steroid users. I am right.

What's your point? Those are the top parses on WoL. If you set it to top you'll get the top.

As far as I'm concerned that's the tool working properly.

[Deleted]

As far as I'm concerned that's the tool working properly.

Basically this.

Because you tried to fix the crack in your window with a hammer resulting in the window breaking does not mean that the hammer is a bad tool, just used in the wrong way.

I do think that an option should be on raidbots though to only count Asian / Rest of the World Logs, as that would benefit both parts of WoW with more relevant data.

[Tobedeleted123]

You mispelt "Asian players who are given two lockouts and gear 8 item levels higher." btw

Your point is? That's what he meant.

[Dropndestroyrr]

Raidbots needs to separate Asian parses from west parses as it is hard to see relevant data with the 8ilvl skews.

[britishbubba]

Raidbots needs to separate Asian parses from west parses as it is hard to see relevant data with the 8ilvl skews.

If you select groups that aren't the very top parses then you get that.

People complaining about the way raid bots work are like the people that say "AMR gives me weird stat weights". A tool will give you the data that it's supposed to give you based off the options you select. If it's giving you data you don't like, then change the options to what you want them to be. It's not raidbots fault that people can't select an option from a drop down menu.

Spoilers. If you pick anything above 95th percentile, you're going to get a lot of asian parses because of their 8 ilvl advantage.

[potatoe]

Asian mages with 8ilvl steroids

You mispelt "Asian players who are given two lockouts and gear 8 item levels higher." btw

Your point is? That's what he meant.

Thank you Anzen for spelling it out.

I tried and failed to understand the original quote.

For more context:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...anges-in-Korea
via

2012-11-29, 09:43 PM
5.1 25-man Raid Changes in Asia
So again Blizzard is doing their experiments on Asia server (last time was late 4.2 double lockout per week for FL)

[Deleted]

If you select groups that aren't the very top parses then you get that.

People complaining about the way raid bots work are like the people that say "AMR gives me weird stat weights". A tool will give you the data that it's supposed to give you based off the options you select. If it's giving you data you don't like, then change the options to what you want them to be. It's not raidbots fault that people can't select an option from a drop down menu.

Spoilers. If you pick anything above 95th percentile, you're going to get a lot of asian parses because of their 8 ilvl advantage.

An option to select only Asian/Non Asian logs would be good though. Then you can see your percentile ranking in a fair way, and setting to the 95th percentile would be more relavant. For example my median percentile during T15 was 98th, if that didnt include asian with +8 item levels it could have been 99th, who knows.

I for one think that being able to atleast have the option to seperate the logs would be nice for both Asian and non-asian players.

[britishbubba]

An option to select only Asian/Non Asian logs would be good though. Then you can see your percentile ranking in a fair way, and setting to the 95th percentile would be more relavant. For example my median percentile during T15 was 98th, if that didnt include asian with +8 item levels it could have been 99th, who knows.

I for one think that being able to atleast have the option to seperate the logs would be nice for both Asian and non-asian players.

Probably would be nice, but I would also argue that it's better to just go to the WoL site and look at the parse list and look at where you stand from there as they already have the ability to cut out asia.

[Deleted]

Probably would be nice, but I would also argue that it's better to just go to the WoL site and look at the parse list and look at where you stand from there as they already have the ability to cut out asia.

Quite hard to find your overall percentile rank using WoL though. You can only really compare yourself towards the other rankers there, and even that is highly ineffective compared to raidbots.

[Mormolyce]

Raidbots needs to separate Asian parses from west parses as it is hard to see relevant data with the 8ilvl skews.

No point in making such a change since that's going away in WoD.

[Danshot]

does epeenbot use overall percentiles vs just NA/EU?

[mmokri]

does epeenbot use overall percentiles vs just NA/EU?

It does not even separate west/asian logs.

[Deleted]

Funny how you look @ norushen, the boss that is soo inaccurate being in 2 different realms!