Should blizzard address Toxic Behavior

[But I Hate You All]

So this morning we see the same as every year asshats blocking the Xmas tree in Org and IF. Zone Disruption Under blizzards own rules and it got me thinking the behavior of some people in this game is pretty toxic and blizzard seems to just let it go. LoL tried dealing with their player bases Toxic behavior, Do you think blizzard should do the same?

this thread is about the TOXIC BEHAVIOR ALL YEAR AROUND

[ShuaVerde]

I don't know that there's really all that much Blizzard can do to change the attitudes and behaviors of people who get their kicks by messing with other players. I think what they can and should do is put invisible barriers up around things like the Winter Veil gifts so that people can't get up and block them, while still allowing the rest of us to click on them.

I've been wanting them to do that with flight trainers and other popular NPCs with every expansion to date.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

How does Blizzard deal with people blocking presents (or anything with large mounts and such)? What proof is there? Anyone with a decent amount of friends can fuck with others putting in a bunch of false reports making Blizzard think it's toxic behavior.
There is simply no easy way to dealing with this sort of behavior.

[Courierrawr]

This stuff is super easy to fix, they just need to place invisible boxes around the presents & NPCs, they've already done this with the tier gear vendors in Shrine.

[Pachycrocuta]

You can't change the assholery of anonymous internet dickholes. The only thing that could change this is if every time someone was an asshole in WoW (we will stick with the WoW example), someone broke into their house and punched the hell out of them each time. Or, they got a massive electric shock (similar to a tazer) each time. So long as there are no consequences for being a dipshit on the internet, it will continue.

Unfortunately.

[Kisho]

There's certain things they can do to mitigate toxic behaviour with game design, e.g. making loot in LFR personal and untradeable to reduce greed. However, they can't (and shouldn't) interfere with individual personal disputes. They just don't have the resources for that, and it's a losing battle to tackle it head on.

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of survey system, whereby after an LFR run you can submit feedback on the run. Who in particular was an ass, who did well, etc. Then these could get reviewed by community members (another role for MVPs on the forums, perhaps?) to ensure no false reports are being made, and then submit to Blizzard who they think should be rewarded/punished. Blizzard can then give out bans/bonuses as appropriate.

Similar to the tribunal system, but rewarding the good behaviour as well. And it shouldn't require much more effort on Blizzard's part, since the community is mostly doing the work for them.

In short, give the community the power to police itself, with enough restrictions to prevent abuse of the system.

[But I Hate You All]

How does Blizzard deal with people blocking presents (or anything with large mounts and such)?

Suspensions than bans

What proof is there?

Logs?

http://tinypic.com/r/20z7gaq/5

Anyone with a decent amount of friends can fuck with others putting in a bunch of false reports making Blizzard think it's toxic behavior.
There is simply no easy way to dealing with this sort of behavior.

Lets face it right now reporting does nothing unless it's massive amounts of reports. Prior to the new report system reporting did very little. If they were more admit about the enforcement of the tos the behavior would change.

[Terahertz]

So this morning we see the same as every year asshats blocking the Xmas tree in Org and IF. Zone Disruption Under blizzards own rules and it got me thinking the behavior of some people in this game is pretty toxic and blizzard seems to just let it go. LoL tried dealing with their player bases Toxic behavior, Do you think blizzard should do the same?

People have been actively reporting those blocking the xmas tree and I've seen less and less people disrupting the tree. So I'd say blizzard is already banning some of the people.

[Deleted]

You can't change the assholery of anonymous internet dickholes. The only thing that could change this is if every time someone was an asshole in WoW (we will stick with the WoW example), someone broke into their house and punched the hell out of them each time. Or, they got a massive electric shock (similar to a tazer) each time. So long as there are no consequences for being a dipshit on the internet, it will continue.

This sounds like a good method, can you maybe give some more insights about how to handle it in specific situations?

[ComputerNerd]

Blizzard has implemented UI features to resolve the issue, and therefore I don't think are likely to persue it further except in extreme cases.
The ability to toggle friendly nameplates, and the addition of a keybind for interaction can allow you to interact as necessary with them.
I agree those steps should not be necessary, but since there is a "proper" solution there I cannot see blizzard taking the issue seriously enough.

Rating or ranking people is very much open to abuse, and should be avoided.
You can see how easily vote-kick can be abused.
Imagine that on a way larger scale and way more dangerous.

[But I Hate You All]

Not to be that guy but back in BC I got suspended many times for swearing. When I got suspended for 24 hrs I learned. Seems to me getting suspended is rare now days

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Blizzard has implemented UI features to resolve the issue, and therefore I don't think are likely to persue it further except in extreme cases.
The ability to toggle friendly nameplates, and the addition of a keybind for interaction can allow you to interact as necessary with them.

Does not work. today was a example of the ever growing toxic behavior of some of the wow players

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Logs?

http://tinypic.com/r/20z7gaq/5

That's not good proof. Anyone with a computer can change any screenshot. There is no right way of knowing who is doing this behavior. Your solutions can also cause a lot more bad then good.

[Duridi]

The only thing they can do, is being more aggressive in advertising and encouraging good behaviour. It doesn't guarantee it will get better, but what is wrong with the community, is nothing but their attitude. Attitude is taught by multiple sources, which means it is incredibly hard to change while being just one source.

[But I Hate You All]

That's not good proof. Anyone with a computer can change any screenshot. There is no right way of knowing who is doing this behavior. Your solutions can also cause a lot more bad then good.

Did you miss the part where I said logs? The SS was just a example of the ever growing toxic behavior we have 365 days a year

[mistahwilshire]

There's nothing they can do that would have a big enough impact to be worth the effort.

[cFortyfive]

Seems to me getting suspended is rare now days

Very true.
Long term I definitely think it would be better for their product to take care of certain situations.

[mistahwilshire]

Did you miss the part where I said logs? The SS was just a example of the ever growing toxic behavior we have 365 days a year

It isn't ever growing. It's always been this way (yes Vanilla was incredibly toxic and horrible as well). It's actually shrinking if anything because the playerbase is slowly shrinking. The peak of the toxicity was Wrath.

[greysaber]

How does Blizzard deal with people blocking presents (or anything with large mounts and such)? What proof is there? Anyone with a decent amount of friends can fuck with others putting in a bunch of false reports making Blizzard think it's toxic behavior.
There is simply no easy way to dealing with this sort of behavior.

it is actually possible for GMs to login and view it.

they wouldn't even have to do it every hour on every server. a few random perma bans put on public display for all to see and hear about, and the news would spread like wildfire, and assholes would all but stop being cocksuckers.

it's the same concept with the police. you don't see a cop on every corner watching every second of activity. but for the most part the civilized world stays pretty civilized because of the FEAR of getting in trouble.

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of course a perma ban would mean $15 less in blizzs pockets... now we couldn't have that now, right?

[araine]

they need to give shitheads like this a min of a 1 month ban.

[runedhill]

So when I'm on my mount and you can't reach a box because I'm talking to Greatfather Winter, I deserve to get banned? I'm DC'd on one spot or lagging really bad so I can't move, and because you can't reach something I deserve to get banned? I don't realize people can't click through me and since nobody ever speaks up, they just go elsewhere to complain (like these forums), I deserve to get banned? I'm sitting on a spot and my kid starts to cry or I smell my dinner burning or my house on fire and I get up because I'm a responsible human being I deserve to get banned? That's what you're telling me.
Here's a tip: zoom in to avoid getting blocked off.
There are things you can do about it, and because of that there is no reason for Blizzard to waste their time and resources by stepping in and holding your hand for your instant gratification. Do you want to ban people for swarming around an important new NPC and making you lag, too?
Try the in-game report feature. It exists for a reason. GMs should not and will never step in for something as ridiculous as this.