Ask Mr robot reforge

[Deleted]

Hey, guys playing sub rogue using the askmrrobot addon to help me reforge my gear.. its left me with 7:47 hit and 7:47 expertise..
saying its 100% done also?.. surely that cant be right?..
Thanks

Recup - Lightbringer (EU) if anyone wants to take a look at my armoury.

[Brael]

You aren't using it correctly then, go to settings and enable "at least" mode and it'll force it to give you 7.5% hit and exp if that is how much you want.

Edit: generally I think people leave the option turned off by the way because a 0.03% chance to miss or be dodged is so small it'll happen maybe once or twice in a raid night.

[Deleted]

i didnt know you could do that mate cheers :P

[AseyBL]

in some ocasions (ilvl gear) little bit under cap is better for benefit for example haste

[Deleted]

ive sorted it now anyway cheers for the tip though!

[shadowboy]

Enabling "at least" mode is a dps loss. At 0.03% miss chance, the median number of attacks to get a single miss is ~2310. do you really want to lose 10 haste/crit/mastery (which the other 2309 attacks will all benefit from) to get that 1 extra hit?

[Deleted]

Enabling "at least" mode is a dps loss. At 0.03% miss chance, the median number of attacks to get a single miss is ~2310. do you really want to lose 10 haste/crit/mastery (which the other 2309 attacks will all benefit from) to get that 1 extra hit?

I didnt think of it that way.. ive turned "at least" mode of now leaving me with 7.47 hit and expertise but gaining alot more crit and haste! will try it out.. cheers for the help guys!

[Deleted]

too much OCD to miss attacks, prefer being able to relax knowing my attacks won't miss, dps loss though

[Deleted]

i was thinking the same, but that slight miss chance that i have, leaving them 7:47% i got more crit/haste so i don't the misses will actually be noticeable really

[shadowboy]

With boss-spin-parries in the mix, you won't even bat an eyelash if a special attack misses.

[Sesshou]

You want at MOST 7.5% of each. If you go over you're wasting stats and dps typically. From what it looks like you're going to be good with what it's recommending.

No, what you want it set to is the highest dps. Potentially telling your reforger to ignore a higher dps option because you picked at least 7.5% or at most 7.5% is stupid.

Specifically for what you said if its just a tiny bit over for hit, it might still be the optimal reforge because hits value after 7.5% is not zero while that little bit that takes you to the 7.5% special cap is by far worth more than anything else. Its less likely for exp, but hey it could happen.

[Deleted]

putting the atleast option on is giving me just over 8% hit/expertise, buy just that little % under is giving me a whole lot more Crit/haste, i haven't really tried testing to see if there actually is a dps difference yet though..

[Deleted]

Really depends how much hit and expertise you would have over if not under.

I could have 7.47% of both, but I prefer to run with 7.51 and 7.53, just to guarantee those attacks hit

[Deleted]

im just hoping a get some upgrades this week to maybe sort it out, not really realising much of a difference atm though.. but i am kinda OCD at making sure im hit/expertise capped :P

[Sesshou]

Honestly, this entire issue is another reason why you are better off with shadowcraft to reforge because it will recalculate your weights and your dps after every reforge so you can see if being under/over is optimal.

[Adramalech]

Having 0.03% points under the cap won't usually yield any misses. Over all these years I've been playing WoW, I don't think I've ever missed an attack or spell while being at such a small amount below the cap. I wouldn't mind that if I were you (as far as performance goes, that is). Usually having 0.03% below or over the cap isn't really an issue. You're very unlikely to have the exact 7.5%. It happens sometimes, but it's still unlikely.

This is one of the reasons that makes me happy that they're getting rid of hit and expertise. I, too, hate not having the exact amount of hit or expertise needed (7.5% or 15.00% depending on the class/stat), but it's so rare to hit the exact value.

[Squirl]

Honestly, this entire issue is another reason why you are better off with shadowcraft to reforge because it will recalculate your weights and your dps after every reforge so you can see if being under/over is optimal.

Seconded. I don't know why any rogue would use AMR.

[Deleted]

Seconded. I don't know why any rogue would use AMR.

ive used AMR for ages, now.. im sure it isnt bad for rogues.. not saying its the best.. there is no need to say it like its illegal for rogues to use it...

[Squirl]

ive used AMR for ages, now.. im sure it isnt bad for rogues.. not saying its the best.. there is no need to say it like its illegal for rogues to use it...

Using my current gear, plugging the AMR "optimization" into ShC puts me 539 DPS lower and under hit cap. The difference isn't huge, but I don't know why anyone would use the lesser tool on purpose.

[Maelstrom51]

ive used AMR for ages, now.. im sure it isnt bad for rogues.. not saying its the best.. there is no need to say it like its illegal for rogues to use it...

AMR is just a plain worse tool than ShC for rogues. There is no reason to use it.