The slippery slope has finally ended.

[Deleted]

Im an altoholic and i love leveling and most probably i wont even use the 90 boost with the expansion. But still whats the problem if some1 wants to buy a lvl 90 char in a lvl 100 expansion? Not giving him anything more than any wanna be hardcore qq cry baby player. Rly cant see whats the issue here...
If one day they start selling for example a hc end boss kill title - ok go moan quit the game and blabla. A mount/pet/partially lvled char in green gear are just another reason for "wow as it is now and not as it was in tbc" haters.

[Themerlin]

Im more of an oldschool RPG fan, wow back in TBC hit my personal favorite balance on the genre. Wow is still a good game to some, but its not the same game. Do I feel its fair? Not really. I wish they would open up oldschool servers to support the fans of wow past. But there are always other ways to do that.

TBC was the golden age of WoW for me as well, ever since Cataclysm it all went downhill, and I simply unsubbed since I did not enjoy it at all.

Since the announcement of WoD, my dreams of an Argus or a Xoroth burning legion expansion went to the sewers.

Blizzard is remaking the brand, and in my opinion...it is for the worst.

[Shamanberry]

So it isn't P2W to offer a 90 in WoD. Would it be P2W if they offered a level 99 in WoD? Or level 99 and 99% XP?

There's no difference, they fall all into the same category.

Those are in the same category in the same way that sharks and sardines are both fish.

Giving an advantage on previous expansion content (which becomes irrelevant the moment you're past it) is a HUGE gap from giving advantage on current expansion content.

[Giscoicus]

Those are in the same category in the same way that sharks and sardines are both fish.

Giving an advantage on previous expansion content (which becomes irrelevant the moment you're past it) is a HUGE gap from giving advantage on current expansion content.

Getting on the gear treadmill faster is an advantage in current content. Im not sure how hitting max level 30 hours before a player of equal skill does, while only playing the same amount, is not an advantage in your view.

[rda]

Apparently in this poll:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1329687-Experience-for-Gold-Vendor
only 35% were in favor of buying exp with GOLD.

But according to this poll:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...port-or-Oppose
61% are in favor of buying exp with REAL CURRENCY.

How does that even make any fucking sense?

People on this site are voting for whatever Blizzard are saying (not all, but enough to force the results of polls).

For whatever reason, they are taking whatever Blizzard official position happens to be at the day of a poll and vote similarly.

It has been shown time and again, and now we have one more example.

At the time of the first poll, Blizzard's stance was that selling exp for gold or, god forbid, money, was bad. So that option won. At the time of the second poll, Blizzard's stance changed, selling exp for money suddenly became not only fine, but a great thing and a service to the community. So the opposite option won. That's all there is to it.

[purebalance]

No they're not. Don't make things up.

Can we report mods for trolling/lying? They are in fact planning on that very soon. Do you not read the posts? If you preorder the digital version of WoD you will get the lvl 90 boost upon preorder and the preorders will be opening as soon as they test the boost functionality in terms of the programming side on a PTR. THEN if all goes well they are considering allowing you to do it again as a purchase option.

[reckoner04]

Those are in the same category in the same way that sharks and sardines are both fish.

Giving an advantage on previous expansion content (which becomes irrelevant the moment you're past it) is a HUGE gap from giving advantage on current expansion content.

3 people start playing WoW:

1 just starts playing and levels his character.
1 buys a level 90 character and goes from there.
1 buys a level 99 character and goes from there.

The difference between these 3? The first one doesn't have an advantage, the other two do have an advantage. They both progress faster than the first one. The point is, some will require more time to progress and some less because they have $. Whether 90-100 is actually new content or not doesn't even matter, the progression starts at 1, not 90. If you don't believe this, ask the guy who just made a level 1 character and starts leveling.

[Deleted]

People can have their opinnions, but Im happy with my one instant lvl90 alt. Might even change my main now that I don't have to go through the few days grind that is boring as F for someone that has played from the start. Could not care less if someone pay's money to get all classes to lvl90, its not hurting my experience at all.

"BUT CANT U SEE IF THEY IMPLEMENT THIS WHAT STOPS THEM FROM SELLING LEGENDARY GEAR!!!"
Well all I can say is that atm they are not selling gear, they are selling lvl90 characters so come back to whine if they ever start doing that, I doubt it.

[Deleted]

All those years we made fun of the people saying. "If they sell server transfers whats stoping them from selling gear or max lvl characters? We thought such connection would never happen, since blizzard knows better.

Actually I've been waiting for this too happen for a long, long time (since they introduced DK's). It's about time they finally are considering it "seriously".

[freighttrain]

People on this site are voting for whatever Blizzard are saying (not all, but enough to force the results of polls).

For whatever reason, they are taking whatever Blizzard official position happens to be at the day of a poll and vote similarly.

It has been shown time and again, and now we have one more example.

And forum polls cannot be taken serious at all since it is not a random enough sample across all types of players. Forum goers are a tiny subset of the player base. Taking any poll from such a small subset of players or any population would never be considered reliable. That is like pooling only people from the Green party for presidential election polls while ignoring all other party affiliates, non party affiliates, and non voters then claiming that that poll holds any merit.

[reckoner04]

And forum polls cannot be taken serious at all since it is not a random enough sample across all types of players. Forum goers are a tiny subset of the player base. Taking any poll from such a small subset of players or any population would never be considered reliable. That is like pooling only people from the Green party for presidential election polls while ignoring all other party affiliates, non party affiliates, and non voters then claiming that that poll holds any merit.

He said "people on this site", and the people who vote on polls are pretty much the same who make posts.

[Dethh]

No they're not. Don't make things up.

"and in the near future we’ll be testing out a feature that gives you the option to purchase a character upgrade directly"
Front page blue post.

[procne]

In bold: If it is no longer important, why is it not an option to opt out of?

I take paid boost to level 90 as the option to opt out of it

Clearly there are people who love to level, and those who don't.

I am one of those people who love leveling. But ever since cataclysm it has become so easy and boring, with almost no challenge. Anyway, when WoD comes I will return to leveling alts (not playing since cataclysm) and I will not use

The game should offer the best of both worlds as part of the subscription fee. Blizzard shouldn't care if you plan on buying their game and 5 xpacks to skip to the last 10 levels of play.

Dunno what Blizzard should or shouldn't.

[Lillemus]

3 people start playing WoW:

1 just starts playing and levels his character.
1 buys a level 90 character and goes from there.
1 buys a level 99 character and goes from there.

The difference between these 3? The first one doesn't have an advantage, the other two do have an advantage. They both progress faster than the first one. The point is, some will require more time to progress and some less because they have $. Whether 90-100 is actually new content or not doesn't even matter, the progression starts at 1, not 90. If you don't believe this, ask the guy who just made a level 1 character and starts leveling.

Person #1 starts playing, stops playing after a few days, because well, there is actually noone from this little community (server) that I am part of anywhere to be seen, leveling a fresh character is a barren wasteland of solo play, there is very little multiplayer about the leveling process these days (sadly) but WoW is no longer a new game, the influx of new players naturally stagnates.
For me personally, I agree that it is pay-to-win as you save time and time = reward in MMOs. How this paying for 90 will work time will tell, I thought it was enough with the free 90 with WoD, but this is also a solution.
It won't affect me much as I don't intend to use the service, nor will other people buying it have much impact on my game. And at the end of the day, this service was also provided by shady websites, so it's nothing new, only difference is that Blizzard will be earning that money now, which I am ok with.

[Lastgope]

I'm actually really happy they're doing this. It's gonna save me $15 a month!

WoW is trash now, flame me /zerofucksgiven

Been hearing people say that since the second month of vanilla!

So yes I give no fucks to you.

"and in the near future we’ll be testing out a feature that gives you the option to purchase a character upgrade directly"
Front page blue post.

KEYWORD is testing

[Lillemus]

Been hearing people say that since the second month of vanilla!

So yes I give no fucks to you.

You just did though by responding though . I am giving a fuck however, I am happy to see him go, he doesn't sound like a pleasant fellow anyways

[Zylos]

KEYWORD is testing

I can't recall the last time a "test" for something like this ever failed to make the cut after they announced it. Maybe the D3 auction house? And that lasted a long time before it got pulled and the ramifications on the game are very obvious. Any negative (and positive too keep your pants on) effects on the game by this could range from large to small but will not be obvious at all. There are many factors that go into things like player skill or subscription retention which could be affected.

[sourmonkey]

The one thing I learned to accept in wow as a massively multiplayer game is.

What choices other people chose will not affect the way I played or continue to play now or in the future .

That being said blizzard could offer end game gear to players for cash .
I'll still show up to raid and still kill bosses and earn my gear the old fashion way
And if we all worried about ourselves and what goals we set then why should we worry about others decisions that affects themselves

It's up to you to elect the quality of players you associate with . If you allow lazy gamers around you then Yeah there decisions effect the quality of your game so chose your friends wisely .

[Glasse]

Every single one of you who think that the slippery slope is an intelligent way to approach this situation are the reason why there are so many problems with today's modern society.

[Infernix]

What's the difference between an Ebay-bought character and buying a character from Blizzard?