Guides are bullshit: Fel hunters eat enslave no matter where Pit Lord is

[Master Guns]

Title pretty much. After about 50 wipes from fel hunters alone, I fucking give up. This is getting fucking stupid. I do what *every* guide out there says to do. nothing. The fel hunters still eat and chase the pit lord no matter where i fucking put him.

Would love a guide that isn't complete bullshit, claiming that "this will work no matter what" even though 90% of the comments in the video say "fel hunters still eat enslave". What a joke.

[Erolian]

Not to be mean but I'm pretty sure there is some sort of user error unless some recent hotfix/patch broke them. They cannot eat the enslave if they aren't facing the pit lord or in LoS. They would only chase him if you put no threat on them iirc. Is he getting healing aggro or something like that?

I just put him in the far right cubby dropped rof over the gateway they come out of and ran to the left side of the room. Worked the first week the boss was out 100% of the time but idk about now

[Iammighty]

I sacrificed 2 minutes and made that amazing graph.

Hide the Pit Lord behind the pillar, aggro the felhunters and try to kite them into opposite direction.

You can shadowfury them once they spawn, for easy double kill thanks to havoc + Chaos Bolt.

And it DOES work, It was the only mechanic which made it possible to beat Karenthad in my sub 500-gear around 5 months ago.

[Relix]

They aren't bullshit, you're just doing it wrong. I placed mine where the "YOU" dot is on the graph above. I then stood on the opposite side of the portal. Dropped like 3 Rain of Fires on the portal. They came out, ran right at me. Havok up on the first one, Chaos Bolt killed two and then quickly killed the third. I had my Pit Lord charge the last while I killed it. I had wiped about 30 times on this fight before doing what I just described and I killed the fight.

The Enslave was only eaten by the Fel Hunters if I moved. Or didn't have my Rain of Fires down. The guides are not bullshit, you're just not handling mechanics correctly.

[roahn the warlock]

It's actually not a distance mechanic, it is a facing mechanic, the felhunters cannot face the pit lord

[Aezral]

yeah it's a LoS issue. I had the most trouble at that part, but as destro, moving the pit lord on one side of the portal, and positioning myself on the opposite side, making sure rain of fire didn't stop before the 3rd fel hunter aggroed me was key to me getting it. You need to make sure the 3rd fel hunter attacks you right as it spawns so it doesnt see the pit lord at all. The 3rd one usually screwed me over until I realized this simple mistake

[Defrager]

I did this on my Alliance lock the other day actually and I kind of know what you mean.

I'm sure there is a full-proof LoS way about doing it, however I was being lazy and just sending it away at the max distance I could and tried to put behind poles. I myself then had my circle setup in the opposite direction making the fel hunters run ages to me and open up even more of a gap to the pit lord.

I lost enslave nearly every time I think, but because the pit lord was so far away I had time to kill the first (immo + conflag + incin spam) then havoc the second and chaos bolt the third and they were about dead and pit lord on his way and reslave before he hit me. It saved me doing it later when the doom guard spawaned.

This might not have helped and you may not have as much gear as I did (i510) but just opening up a big enough gap could help make that difference.

PS: Every guide I found was missing some of the most recent nerfs which really do change the fight, so I went with a LoS method to the whole fight rather than the agro drop one I used when I completed this the first time around. Don't give up, the feeling you'll get from beating this, especially now, is well worth it.

[Deleted]

I don't want to be mean but people before you handled that fight, some did it like the guides said, some did something different because they didn't read them or found something else suiting them better. When there was no patch breaking the fight (which there wasn't) YOU are handling something the wrong way and giving up won't kill the boss for you.

- The Felhunter's Devour Magic is a 180° cone in front of them that checks LoS which they basically spam all the time.
- There are pillars and edges.
- Your doomlord can stun.
- Mobs turn up to 90° to reposition themselves when the target they are meleeing is moving.

Use that info. If you find yourself overwhelmed with buttons to press write macros or do it until you get it right.

[Jenram]

Honestly, I almost ignored mechanics and killed Kanrethad before the 2nd doomguard even came out, and didn't even kill the first one, just banished it. This is how I kept the importance of the fight, from 1st priority to lowest.

1. Keep at least 1 Ember in reserve for Ember Tap, right after he hits you with a Chaos Bolt is when you want to burn an Ember to heal yourself or use a Health Stone if you're A. Low on Embers, B. Are confident with the priorities below this one and your DPS.

2. Every time he attempts to use cataclysm = use pitlord charge to cancel cataclysm and nuke him hard during the stun duration

3. When he buffs himself get in front of the pit lord and use breath to both dispel him and get dots off of you, rebuff yourself after

4. Shadowfury Felhunters the moment they spawn and then Howl of Terror them, 20 seconds should be more than enough time to Havoc 2 down in a few seconds and finish off the last, potentially can avoid losing control of the pit lord all-together without even having to LoS it.

My lock was a crappy little 536 ilevel when I got my green fire, still made him do well over enough DPS to just nuke the fight and barely have to follow its mechanics/LoS strategies. I tried doing it the whole LoS way and I just kept running out of time, he'd get Doom off on me either after the second wave of imps or first doomguard summon.

Pit Lord was on Kan the entire fight from start to finish, only had to re-enslave it twice, once just to renew the duration after I cancelled his Cataclysm, and again when I got sloppy with the second set of fel hunters.

[Jun]

The way I did it is pretty fool-proof.

For Felhunters, when he's getting ready to summon them, get in their face. Keep the pit lord nearby. Keep at least one conflag charge and at least 1 ember (2 is better).
The instant before the first one spawns, pop Dark Soul.
Have the pit lord charge it to stun it.
Conflag.
Havoc.
By this time the second one has spawned.
Chaos bolt it in the face, killing the first and hopefully the second.
Shadowfury the third, and chaos bolt it if you have an ember to spare. Otherwise, incinerate spam.
If you do it right, they'll crumble before they can even think about eating the enslave.
And if they do, it's a quick clean up before you recast enslave (glyph it; totally worth it).
The pit lord charge will be back in time to hit Kanrethad for Cataclysm.
I did this at 498 ilvl; purification potion if you have issues with the enrage (chug it a few seconds before doom goes off).
It's a mechanics fight; practice each section till you have it down pat.

Edit: One more thing! If you use your soulshatter around, say the first doomguard spawn, Kanrethad will just beat up on the pit lord. Only things he'll lob your way are CB, Agony, and Seed.

[rijn dael]

When I did it (afflic, ~480 ilvl, with purification pot for ~13min kill), I made sure the felhunters never faced the pit lord, by placing him well behind the portal, while I rof'd the portal as they spawned. It worked reliably.

I also made sure not to heal myself with the pit lord till I had enough threat - because if they spin around with healing agro, they are facing the pit lord, and promptly dispel him.

hth

[vian]

Bullshit? Stop being delusional, the guides are very accurate.

All it takes is having the pitlord away from the direction the felhunters are facing.

[Count Zero]

It's not distance and it's not LoS. It's whether they are facing your Pitlord.

You be on one side of the portal they spawn from, with your Pitlord on the other. Keep RoF on the portal as they're spawning so you get aggro.

Conflag or Fel Flame on first for snap aggro. Havoc on it. Second spawns, use Pitlord Charge then Chaos Bolt on it (the 2nd pup). This should wipe it and the first one out.

Conflag on second one, then Chaos Bolt, and it should be in shadowburn range. Might need an incinerate also to get it to execute range.

Use a Shadowfury on the 3rd one when it spawns if it's taking you too long to kill it.

[6kle]

I am sure they have made changes in the fight since it first came out. I remember doing it right when it came out and then again some months later. I noticed I had to change my tactic because, for example, placing Pits behind pillar just didn't work like it used to work when I did it the first time. That is not the only difference I noticed. I think there are quite a few undocumented changes, so it's best to use a relatively new guide.

[Deleted]

I had the same problems as OP.

I overcame the problem by dismissing the pitlord and immeadiately after banishing him, which I would time with felhunters spawning.
Then you kill the felhunters with no stress whatsoever. Free the pitlord and re-enslave him.
That way I had a "large" margin for error, at least it felt like it.

Hope this helps you

[Last Starfighter]

Title pretty much. After about 50 wipes from fel hunters alone, I fucking give up. This is getting fucking stupid. I do what *every* guide out there says to do. nothing. The fel hunters still eat and chase the pit lord no matter where i fucking put him.

Would love a guide that isn't complete bullshit, claiming that "this will work no matter what" even though 90% of the comments in the video say "fel hunters still eat enslave". What a joke.

Yes, of course because you can't do it, guides are bullshit. Do you know how many people have green fire?

[vian]

Yes, of course because you can't do it, guides are bullshit. Do you know how many people have green fire?

We're all hackers, that's the only way to do it.

[Jabberie]

FYI enslave also expires. I hit my head against that wall a few wipes as it's timing was with fel hunters coming out for a while.

[Deleted]

just fear / banish the pitlord? Don´t remember which one does work, but I already cced him anyhow. it´s not like the boss is casting cataclysm 100% of the time, so kill the felhunters asap and enslave the pitlord once again.
other way would be: just get gear. It was already faceroll with 510ilvl and now you can reach around 580ilvl. nuke the sh*t out of this critter

[Stolberg]

Title pretty much. After about 50 wipes from fel hunters alone, I fucking give up. This is getting fucking stupid. I do what *every* guide out there says to do. nothing. The fel hunters still eat and chase the pit lord no matter where i fucking put him.

Would love a guide that isn't complete bullshit, claiming that "this will work no matter what" even though 90% of the comments in the video say "fel hunters still eat enslave". What a joke.

It's pretty rare to see people with green fire (Not)... Maybe you are just bad, that's why you can't do it. I didn't even use a guide and got it

The worst part on this is that I have no idea why do you even insult people that wasted time writing guides for you dumb nuts to use on that fight, if the guides worked for them, then you are just doing it wrong, that or maybe you are just doing it in the wrong patch, but yea, maybe you should just dedicate your life to Tetris, instead of crying about other people's guides "not working".