Denied from the Army, where to start?

[BarelyLegalBear]

(Skip first paragraph for actual help, This is just a little background)
Hey all, well i recently got denied from the Army and well i am heartbroken at the moment. I made a stupid mistake from the past that ruined everything. They could work with my Asthma (haven't used in an inhaler in over 4 years and they could deal with the eczema. Not a problem, was denied from a mistake i made for attention you could say and went through a phase. Father mostly contributed to it and well i was in a hospital for a week for thoughts about suicide. (Made a thread about this about a week ago if you can remember where i am coming from) I never had the intentions or plan to do it. Just a little phase i went through for some attention from my family hoping things would get better. It was a crappy phase i went through, if i could do anything i WISH with all my damn heart i could go back to that day and had never made that silly mistake which was about 2 years ago. I'm not crazy, i am extremely smart, have my mind set on doing something good, and most of all i am mentally stable. Nothing wrong with me at all, except a very imaginative. Damn i could totally invent something.

Now with that aside, i am honestly stuck on what to do. I was considering law enforcement and actually be a good cop (CANT stand bad cops who don't know the law), i also considered being a firefighter. Pay is always nice but i would rather do something i enjoy doing. I have also considered Game Warden and Coast Guard but sadly that is military. (Any way to get in Coast Guard? Would my issue be a problem? I don't think it would in that branch because people in this branch aren't crazy.) I need a push in the right direction. I am currently 17, finishing up high school and i turn 18 in 2 months! I plan on going to college for 2-4 years. 2 years at my local college and 2 years at a university. Could anyone push me in the right direction? I want to help people for a living and a few interests i have are. Video Gaming (Something with lore/game play, again i am very imaginative), always wanted to be a youtuber but nowadays it hard to be unique. Video gaming has been a passion but then again i would love to help people and i have a fond interest in guns. I wanted to be a weapon specialist in the Army or someone who tests equipment/weapons.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time my fellow champions.

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Wanna help people? Doctor or Surgeon.

[Prokne]

The Coast Guard is in the Department of Homeland Security. If there is anything permanent on you in the DoD system they might not have it.

If you really want to be in the Army you could probably also go to a different recruiter and not mention the stuff that you were disqualified for. I doubt they would have found out about it the first time. Or you could try the Navy/Marines/Air Force because sometimes even DoD personnel records dont cross over.

If that doesnt work out, get a degree in law enforcement and apply to any number of law enforcement agencies, police, FBI, US Marshals or if you cant do that try firefighting.

But the most important piece of advice is not to tell anyone about your psychological problems ever again. If they do happen to find out about it (doubtful because medical records are confidential) just say you didnt go in for suicidal thoughts but thats what they wrote on your chart (not really a lie if you just did it to get attention, but dont tell them the real reason either). And find out if your medical records are still on paper and destroy anything that wont be necessary for your future medical issues.

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Look into a medical career if you want to help people.

[MerinPally]

Forget gaming, you're not going to make money off it. I'll phrase it this way - I'm a second year university student. What people consider to be a Gamer here is really rather casual compared to what I thought before. Those who played what I would have thought a "normal" amount before university, are no longer here, and not through choice. Not saying it's impossible but a regular playtime disappears if you're going to have the full uni experience.

I'd suggest something like the police. However there's no need possibly to go and do whatever at university, I know for the UK one you can do a specific thing for the police force instead once you're 18 I think. Learn to drive as soon as possible as well, I'm now 20 and haven't bothered because I thought I'd never need it at university. Now, I wish I'd done it during my A levels when I had a stupid amount of time to get it done, would be so convenient. You've gota make sure you're serious and you're at any potential physical requirements. Then you gotta look into how the best way is to get involved, rather than saying "university" - that's not always the best option.

I'm doing this all on the assumption you're not uber intelligent. Not saying dumb but if you're really smart then the best way to help is to be a Doctor, and slightly less smart then a Nurse. But then, unless you REALLY REALLY want to do either of them then DO NOT DO THEM because you will have an awful time and you will not be good at it and you will fail and waste your time and everyone elses.

[Spraxle]

Plenty of ways to help people and joining the Army is not one of them. Go to school to become a doctor, teacher, anything. You can help in some way no matter what you do (even brightening someones day at your McDonalds) but really if you want your life to feel 'full filled' get into college and find a field that interests you.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

There's the peace corps. You have to get a bachleor's for most of the stuff they got there but you can easily snipe one from a community college.

[Vizardlorde]

Thoughts of suicide at 17, shit man you must be pretty hip, do you paint your nails black too? what about wearing a chain around your neck.

Pretty common nowadays mine started at15 but i didnt have a suicidal crisis.

[Airwaves]

Thoughts of suicide at 17, shit man you must be pretty hip, do you paint your nails black too? what about wearing a chain around your neck.

That's not fucking funny. I suffered from severe depression from 14 to 18. Not every teenager is like that. Some have serious problems.

Anyway, On topic. If you want to help people I would go with nursing. My mum has been one for 30 years and she has loved it.

[Realsykes]

Thoughts of suicide at 17, shit man you must be pretty hip, do you paint your nails black too? what about wearing a chain around your neck.

Not okay.

At all.

[BarelyLegalBear]

The Coast Guard is in the Department of Homeland Security. If there is anything permanent on you in the DoD system they might not have it.

If you really want to be in the Army you could probably also go to a different recruiter and not mention the stuff that you were disqualified for. I doubt they would have found out about it the first time. Or you could try the Navy/Marines/Air Force because sometimes even DoD personnel records dont cross over.

If that doesnt work out, get a degree in law enforcement and apply to any number of law enforcement agencies, police, FBI, US Marshals or if you cant do that try firefighting.

But the most important piece of advice is not to tell anyone about your psychological problems ever again. If they do happen to find out about it (doubtful because medical records are confidential) just say you didnt go in for suicidal thoughts but thats what they wrote on your chart (not really a lie if you just did it to get attention, but dont tell them the real reason either). And find out if your medical records are still on paper and destroy anything that wont be necessary for your future medical issues.

Thing is, i don't want to lie to them. Coast Guard was the very first branch i thought about and honestly a great way to save lives and to mention i do enjoy swimming. Also they are out quite a bit, not an inside job. I want something outside even if its in a car, its still outside. Or maybe a job that involves traveling? I've always wanted to travel but then i thought some more and realized not many jobs are like that. If i could join the Coast Guard and stayed completely honest. would i have a chance? Really think that would be a great option for me. Also the Army turned me down because of that but then again they do have high suicide rates. People get crazy in there i'm guessing. Coast Guard does not and trust me i ain't crazy! Just want to save some lives. I have considered medical careers and then i realized that ain't me xD
Not that way at least, another way. I want to save them from disasters and shit like that like you see on the news channel. Just example, catching my drift? Selfless person, love life, would do anything to help others without recognition. I said i wanted it in my last thread but i say a lot of shit. I don't care what people think about what i want to do. I just want myself to do something i enjoy doing. Cops and Fire Fighters have been options. Peace Corps? I'll have to check that out. Keep the options coming. Anything else? Something more along the lines of Protective services and things like that. Fire Fighter and Coast Guard are the only i would consider for saving/helping people. So give me a few ideas on something in protective services and careers related to it. I have looked these up in the past but finding the exact thing i want is a little tough without my fellow champions assistance! Thanks for the replies so far.

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Thoughts of suicide at 17, shit man you must be pretty hip, do you paint your nails black too? what about wearing a chain around your neck.


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Jokes, eh? expected something like that from some of you. Also it was not at the age of 17 bud. I'm currently 17. Clearly said 2 years ago but thanks for not even reading the thread at all.

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Look into a medical career if you ant to help people.

Rich, my main man. Got anything else for me to look into?

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Thing is, i don't want to lie to them. Coast Guard was the very first branch i thought about and honestly a great way to save lives and to mention i do enjoy swimming. Also they are out quite a bit, not an inside job. I want something outside even if its in a car, its still outside. Or maybe a job that involves traveling? I've always wanted to travel but then i thought some more and realized not many jobs are like that. If i could join the Coast Guard and stayed completely honest. would i have a chance? Really think that would be a great option for me. Also the Army turned me down because of that but then again they do have high suicide rates. People get crazy in there i'm guessing. Coast Guard does not and trust me i ain't crazy! Just want to save some lives. I have considered medical careers and then i realized that ain't me xD
Not that way at least, another way. I want to save them from disasters and shit like that like you see on the news channel. Just example, catching my drift? Selfless person, love life, would do anything to help others without recognition. I said i wanted it in my last thread but i say a lot of shit. I don't care what people think about what i want to do. I just want myself to do something i enjoy doing. Cops and Fire Fighters have been options. Peace Corps? I'll have to check that out. Keep the options coming. Anything else? Something more along the lines of Protective services and things like that. Fire Fighter and Coast Guard are the only i would consider for saving/helping people. So give me a few ideas on something in protective services and careers related to it. I have looked these up in the past but finding the exact thing i want is a little tough without my fellow champions assistance! Thanks for the replies so far.

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Jokes, eh? expected something like that from some of you. Also it was not at the age of 17 bud. I'm currently 17. Clearly said 2 years ago but thanks for not even reading the thread at all.

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Rich, my main man. Got anything else for me to look into?

Nothing Military, that record will follow you for life, although if you really want to join up the FFL will take you.

[BarelyLegalBear]

Nothing Military, that record will follow you for life, although if you really want to join up the FFL will take you.

Coast Guard won't even work? Also what is FFL?

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Coast Guard won't even work? Also what is FFL?

French Foreign Legion, they won't check your old medical records and hopefully next time you won't admit it (we warned you not to tell them).

[BarelyLegalBear]

French Foreign Legion, they won't check your old medical records and hopefully next time you won't admit it (we warned you not to tell them).

I didn't want to tell them but i also did not want to lie to them. If i talk to a Coast-Guard recruiter i won't mention it this time then. I plan on talking to one just not right now. I'll mention the Asthma and Eczema because that's actually important but also waiver-able. Also have a doctors note for the Asthma saying i have not used an inhaler in over 4 years so i am good on that. Eczema might be a problem to them but to me it truthfully does not cause me any issues.

French Foreign Legion, eh? The name sounds badass, i'll definitely read up some information on them.

[Thes]

French Foreign Legion, they won't check your old medical records and hopefully next time you won't admit it (we warned you not to tell them).

Man, that makes it all the better. Do they check any records at all?

Although if you want to help people, army is probably not the best choice for that. I bet firefighters, doctors, nurses, food aid or whatever really would be better.

[Maxxik]

If you're seriously considering military duty, one option is to get your 4 year degree, then go in as an officer instead of enlisted. Coast Guard has the same ranks as the U.S. Navy, but they used to fall under Department of Transportation, instead of Department of Defense. Makes them no less important though. Try the Coast Guard route like you want, if that doesn't pan out you'll still have plenty of options, like Firefighter or EMT. I'd also recommend Caregiver, like for the elderly, but of the few people I've known that have done that they say it get kinda depressing over time, when you get attached to them and they all die off.

Not trying to sound offensive, but you don't really seem like a good fit for a cop. There's alot more going on there than most civilians see. Though that's not really an excuse for the bad ones.

And the French Foreign Legion is no joke, it's not a place where you casually walk in looking for a job. The training and living can be pretty brutal, but from what I understand if you finish at least 4(?) years there you qualify for French citizenship, if that's something you may be interested in.

[BarelyLegalBear]

If you're seriously considering military duty, one option is to get your 4 year degree, then go in as an officer instead of enlisted. Coast Guard has the same ranks as the U.S. Navy, but they used to fall under Department of Transportation, instead of Department of Defense. Makes them no less important though. Try the Coast Guard route like you want, if that doesn't pan out you'll still have plenty of options, like Firefighter or EMT. I'd also recommend Caregiver, like for the elderly, but of the few people I've known that have done that they say it get kinda depressing over time, when you get attached to them and they all die off.

Not trying to sound offensive, but you don't really seem like a good fit for a cop. There's alot more going on there than most civilians see. Though that's not really an excuse for the bad ones.

Just curious behind your reasoning on me not being a good fit for a cop. I took no offense, just a little curious for more detail on that.

[Maxxik]

It probably sounds stupid, but what I've gathered from this thread is that you're a nice kid. And nice kids usually don't make for good cops. That doesn't make the inverse true either, it's just that you really have to be neutral in your dealings with the public as a cop. If you get emotionally invested in someone that you have to take to jail, you're probably going to be in for alot of disappointments, both from the defendants and the system. Although, it definitely makes a difference whether your a cop in a small town, or a big city. I've got a few cop buddies and this is pretty much from all the stuff they've told me. Basically, you help when you can, but your primary function is to enforce laws, and that's usually why alot of people don't like them.

[BarelyLegalBear]

It probably sounds stupid, but what I've gathered from this thread is that you're a nice kid. And nice kids usually don't make for good cops. That doesn't make the inverse true either, it's just that you really have to be neutral in your dealings with the public as a cop. If you get emotionally invested in someone that you have to take to jail, you're probably going to be in for alot of disappointments, both from the defendants and the system. Although, it definitely makes a difference whether your a cop in a small town, or a big city. I've got a few cop buddies and this is pretty much from all the stuff they've told me. Basically, you help when you can, but your primary function is to enforce laws, and that's usually why alot of people don't like them.

Takes one person to make a change in a community. Eventually one person will become a group then hopefully many more fellows officers will then change their ways. Just saying it could work but then again it may not. I was thinking of moving somewhere other than Florida to be an Officer, would much rather be considered a Sheriff :P
So a small town is ideal for me. Still haven't decided where i want to move when i get the money for it.