Originally Posted by
Zellviren
Baseline Abilities:
Throw: Fix Heroic Throw to have a 15 second cooldown, and this can go. - Okay, I'll take that.
Heroic Strike/Cleave: Currently propped up by a proc for tanks and generally not used at all for Arms. This could go. - Make Heroic Strike hit 3 targets and remove cleave. Having the proc for tanks and the off-gcd damage dump for DPS is a good thing.
Sunder Armor: Tanks have Devastate, DPS toons don't need it. It should go. - Bake it into CS without a glyph, then it can go.
Deep Wounds: Warriors aren't really a bleed class, so this could go. - I disagree. It's good to have a ticking DoT for tank kiting.
Hamstring: I'm a fan of Piercing Howl as baseline and Hamstring has been a balancing nuisance (GCD/off GCD). It should go. - If and only if Piercing Howl becomes baseline. I still like having it be a melee range attack though. Not sure how I feel.
Battle Shout/Commanding Shout: Merge these two together and get rid of the other. - Agree.
Blood and Thunder: Without Deep Wounds, we don't need Blood and Thunder. It could go. - See my comment on Deep Wounds. I'd keep it.
Berserker Rage: With less CC in the game and the damage easily tunable elsewhere, this could go. - Bake it into Battle Shout - Adds 10% Stamina, x%AP, 30 rage, makes you immune to fear for 10 seconds, 1 minute CD.
Demoralizing Shout: Roll out Die by the Sword for all three specs. This should go. - This is actually fantastic.
Ultimatum: Proc used to stop the redundancy of Heroic Strike. It should go. - Keep it per my comments about HS above.
Bastion of Defence: This could be weaved into Unwavering Sentinel or vice versa. This should go. - Agreed. Combine them. Both have good names.
Recklessness: Merge the effect with Avatar and make Avatar the warrior baseline cooldown; Recklessness can then go. - Only if we can keep the DPS banner as well.
Shattering Throw: Unnecessary damage debuff in PvE, awkward in PvP. It should go. - Not unnecessary, just remove the stupid cast time.
Riposte: Won't be required in WoD anymore. It will go. - No comment.
Mocking Banner: To me, it's stupid. Impossible to quickly explain why. It should go. - I like the concept, let's improve it since we no longer have our shout.
Demoralizing Banner: We have raid defensive utility with Rallying Cry. This should go. - Why can't we have both? If nothing else, combine them.
Talents:
Talents are unlikely to be touched because then they'd need replaced but, honestly, this is what I'd do with them.
Juggernaut: Make this baseline and put another talent in its place. - Yes.
ER/SW/IV: This tier is so abnormally weak, we could have all three and not be overpowered. Pick one of them, buff it, make it baseline, and remove the other two for something better. - Yes. Give us baseline SW, Make IV a 1 minute cooldown refreshed by killing blows, buff ER and make it baseline.
SS/PH/DS: Piercing Howl at baseline has been asked for years, while Staggering Shout is crap and we don't need a second interrupt. Replace this entire tier. - How in the 7 hells is Staggering Shout crap? Not only is it retardedly good to have a backup interrupt on one target, but for positioning casters it's a fucking godsend. Make it also silence.
BS/SWa/DR: Give Bladestorm to Arms, Shockwave to tanks and Dragon Roar to Fury. Replace this entire tier. - Also un-nerf the stupid shockwave CD bullshit, give it 50% crit chance, unchanged by gear.
Mass Spell Reflect: We already have one reflect, we don't need another. This should go. - I haven't decided.