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    How do you want your country to respond to the Ukraine crisis?

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    I believe that the United States should overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet government headed by Svoboda. We would then create a constitutional assembly where all major pro-Western political parties would be allowed to participate, but Svoboda would hold a majority of the seats. A new constitution would be implemented, respecting the rights of the Ukrainian people, including the right to bear arms. Ukraine would then be admitted into NATO and EU accession talks would begin.
    Last edited by Nakura Chambers; 2014-01-29 at 11:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    I believe that the United States should overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet government headed by Svoboda. We would then create a constitutional assembly where all major pro-Western political parties would be allowed to participate, but Scoboda would hold a majority of the seats. A new constitution would be implemented, respecting the rights of the Ukrainian people, including the right to bear arms. Ukraine would then be admitted into NATO and EU accession talks would begin.
    I am so glad that you will never hold any real power over the Military, shit like you are suggesting is enough to cause WW3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    I am so glad that you will never hold any real power over the Military, shit like you are suggesting is enough to cause WW3.
    Russia would never risk a war with NATO. We might escalate the DEFCON level a bit, but I can't think of any other coup attempts or realignment rolls that I want to perform in Europe anytime soon anyway.

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    Antagonize the Russian, whatever falls under that category.

    As it stands the government is in a very precarious spot appease the Western area of the country and piss of the south and east or stay par the course and piss off the west will be interesting to see how this developes
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    I say all other countries stay out. Period. Russia, UK, Germany, US, all of us just stay out and let these people figure it out for themselves.

    Though I favor the EU far more than Russia, and wouldn't mind if something happened that was just a big, fat middle finger in Putin's chiseled face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Russia would never risk a war with NATO. We might escalate the DEFCON level a bit, but I can't think of any other coup attempts or realignment rolls that I want to perform in Europe anytime soon anyway.
    Going against the wishes of the EU is a guaranteed way to piss off NATO, it would be the USA versus the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Going against the wishes of the EU is a guaranteed way to piss off NATO, it would be the USA versus the rest of the world.
    EU might pretend to be ungrateful, but that's okay, they do that all the time anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlokyldoreifanggore View Post
    I say all other countries stay out. Period. Russia, UK, Germany, US, all of us just stay out and let these people figure it out for themselves.

    Though I favor the EU far more than Russia, and wouldn't mind if something happened that was just a big, fat middle finger in Putin's chiseled face.
    I heard Russia already sent some soldiers in to monitor the situation
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    EU might pretend to be ungrateful, but that's okay, they do that all the time anyway.
    Yeah, we secretly want another cold war....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    I believe that the United States should overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet government headed by Svoboda. We would then create a constitutional assembly where all major pro-Western political parties would be allowed to participate, but Scoboda would hold a majority of the seats. A new constitution would be implemented, respecting the rights of the Ukrainian people, including the right to bear arms. Ukraine would then be admitted into NATO and EU accession talks would begin.
    You're insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Yeah, we secretly want another cold war....
    I know that I sure do. A second cold war between Russia and the EU has been building for some time now.

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    Nuke the North Pole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    I am so glad that you will never hold any real power over the Military, shit like you are suggesting is enough to cause WW3.
    That could start WW3? Why hasn't it happened yet then? World War 3 will only happen when we invent good enough anti-air turrets that can shoot down most if not all nuclear missiles. When that day happens, Obummer help us.


    Seriously, what he suggested would be nothing compared to the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion and other Cold War wars. None of them started world war 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    I know that I sure do. A second cold war between Russia and the EU has been building for some time now.
    Given up on your dream of living off the land in Siberia then? You won't be able to do that as an American if another cold war kicks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    That could start WW3? Why hasn't it happened yet then? World War 3 will only happen when we invent good enough anti-air turrets that can shoot down most if not all nuclear missiles. When that day happens, Obummer help us.


    Seriously, what he suggested would be nothing compared to the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion and other Cold War wars. None of them started world war 3.
    The Ukraine is a former soviet state, invading it would cause a shit storm from both Russia and the EU, the USA would be left without any allies at all in the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Given up on your dream of living off the land in Siberia then? You won't be able to do that as an American if another cold war kicks off.
    You misunderstand, RICH, that's part of the plan. I'll be working for the CIA when there is a second Cold War, then I'll make off with some classified documents and defect to Russia. The terms of my defection would allow me to live off the land in Siberia and legally own a handgun, something most Russians aren't allowed to do. It's flawless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Russia would never risk a war with NATO. We might escalate the DEFCON level a bit, but I can't think of any other coup attempts or realignment rolls that I want to perform in Europe anytime soon anyway.
    Yeah, because Europe is USA's playing toy

    F*** off world police and let the people sort it out themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    That could start WW3? Why hasn't it happened yet then? World War 3 will only happen when we invent good enough anti-air turrets that can shoot down most if not all nuclear missiles. When that day happens, Obummer help us.


    Seriously, what he suggested would be nothing compared to the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion and other Cold War wars. None of them started world war 3.
    Because those wars where not on the borders of the EU? (And because both the US and the Sovjet Union didn't want to be the one who pushed the big red button first)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    You misunderstand, RICH, that's part of the plan. I'll be working for the CIA when there is a second Cold War, then I'll make off with some classified documents and defect to Russia. The terms of my defection would allow me to live off the land in Siberia and legally own a handgun, something most Russians aren't allowed to do. It's flawless.
    There are many flaws the first one is you getting a job with the CIA
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    The Ukraine is a former soviet state, invading it would cause a shit storm from both Russia and the EU, the USA would be left without any allies at all in the west.
    The EU might publicly protest, but it would be purely for appearances sake. Behind the scenes they would be shaking our hands and thanking us.

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