At what point does raiding stop being fun for you guise? For me at least is when the raid atmosphere is constantly tense like at any moment someone is about to go off on someone else. Another thing for me is when the group dosent give a shit about mechanics. Oh a add just popped 2 people switch to it and no one else and 4 people just died because you cant be fucked to do what youre supposed to do.
What say you?