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  1. #321
    Being able to force someone to PvP was always annoying. I haven't fallen for it since vanilla, but it's annoying when your group mates still happen to do it. Standing over NPCs/other clickable things, standing flagged in groups of mobs and hope someone tab targets you, etc.

    While it was fun to grief flag people way back a long time ago, I also haven't done THAT since vanilla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    I've said this many many times in this thread. We go to PVE servers to get away from UNINSTANCED PVP. (In case you are slow, instanced pvp = battlegrounds and arenas)

    This means we don't want pvp to happen unless we know it's coming and are prepared for it.

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    Please don't be dishonest. For one, you don't speak for everyone, secondly, I clearly wrote "as a few here have screamed over and over."
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    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    The standard. Role-play is optional, and all player-versus-player fights have to be consensual.
    Basically as put. "Trickery" to get people to flag does not a "consensual" player versus player fight make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decklan View Post
    Being able to force someone to PvP was always annoying. I haven't fallen for it since vanilla, but it's annoying when your group mates still happen to do it. Standing over NPCs/other clickable things, standing flagged in groups of mobs and hope someone tab targets you, etc.

    While it was fun to grief flag people way back a long time ago, I also haven't done THAT since vanilla.
    I agree using crappy mechanics to trick someone is pretty lame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Glad people in PVE servers will have one less thing to worry about around griefers.

    However there is still going to be griefing in PVE servers, mostly in Timeless Isle (e.g. pulling adds while doing Ordos), but it's inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    Smart heals do flag you if you are in a raid group, for example for world bosses - at least for my monk. Even if you say "then don't invite PVP flag people" would not work, because they can flag themselves during the battle.
    Then there may be PVP flagged people near a NPC which you want to click, and he moves and you accidentely click on him. Or they even force it by standing in your mob while fighting hoping you will accidently click on them.
    For sure there are other ways to flag you although you did not intend to, and a switch that will remove that is a good thing.
    Can you provide me with an example of when somebody would find themselves in that situation?
    1) You're in a raid group with somebody, so you're not questing / doing dailys.
    2) You're put into a situation (outside of a raid/instance/BG) where you have to be spamming heals on somebody.
    3) If you're killing a world boss, then PVP should be expected. World Bosses drop PVP gear and require you to compete with Horde to get a kill. If you don't want to PVP, then don't participate in events that may require / risk PVP combat.
    4) It's unlikely you're killing a rare spawn, but again you're out in the world and it SHOULD be dangerous. Both Horde and Alliance can happen upon this enemy, so it makes sense that you might encounter an enemy player also seeking to kill that rare spawn.

    I've never understood why people complain so much about PVP in a game where the lore is almost completely centered around Faction vs Faction. Don't play the game if you're not willing to deal with ALL aspects of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buxton McGraff View Post
    Can you provide me with an example of when somebody would find themselves in that situation?
    1) You're in a raid group with somebody, so you're not questing / doing dailys.
    2) You're put into a situation (outside of a raid/instance/BG) where you have to be spamming heals on somebody.
    3) If you're killing a world boss, then PVP should be expected. World Bosses drop PVP gear and require you to compete with Horde to get a kill. If you don't want to PVP, then don't participate in events that may require / risk PVP combat.
    4) It's unlikely you're killing a rare spawn, but again you're out in the world and it SHOULD be dangerous. Both Horde and Alliance can happen upon this enemy, so it makes sense that you might encounter an enemy player also seeking to kill that rare spawn.

    I've never understood why people complain so much about PVP in a game where the lore is almost completely centered around Faction vs Faction. Don't play the game if you're not willing to deal with ALL aspects of the game.
    While I can agree, smart heals shouldn't accidentally flag you. You have very little control over it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by corebit View Post
    Glad people in PVE servers will have one less thing to worry about around griefers.

    However there is still going to be griefing in PVE servers, mostly in Timeless Isle (e.g. pulling adds while doing Ordos), but it's inevitable.
    There will always be some bored youngster who just wants a shits n giggles kind of moment. There is no eliminating these types of actions altogether. This trigger will be in place simply to FULLY control your PvP experience on a PvE-centric realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    Please don't be dishonest. For one, you don't speak for everyone, secondly, I clearly wrote "as a few here have screamed over and over."
    The "we" he mentions is people like us. Had he said "Everyone goes to a PvE server to get away from...." then I could see your point. At this point you are more or less just being obnoxious.
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    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

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    Unless some specific abilities haven't been fixed, you CANNOT get flagged for PvP without targetting the flagged player. Possible that stuff like Sweeping Strikes and Blade Flurry might tag you, but all AoE should be unable to tag you since it doesn't damage the enemy player.

    Simply, unless some abilties aren't fixed, stop targetting enemy players and damage them or stop healing flagged friendlies. It really isn't that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teebu View Post
    Unless some specific abilities haven't been fixed, you CANNOT get flagged for PvP without targetting the flagged player. Possible that stuff like Sweeping Strikes and Blade Flurry might tag you, but all AoE should be unable to tag you since it doesn't damage the enemy player.

    Simply, unless some abilties aren't fixed, stop targetting enemy players and damage them or stop healing flagged friendlies. It really isn't that hard.

    Been mention many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times in this thread. Smart heals will target a flagged ally. Healing a flagged ally will flag you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    Thank god. Being able to die, and having to actually run back, was utterly draconian.

    They should just remove death altogether, this isn't 2004 anymore.
    Yeah really they should honestl remove hitpoints too just make everything 1shot including heroic raid bosses. Also everything should be 100% drop and quests should auto accept and then immediatly auto complete all the way to max level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by re1gn1te View Post
    Yeah really they should honestl remove hitpoints too just make everything 1shot including heroic raid bosses. Also everything should be 100% drop and quests should auto accept and then immediatly auto complete all the way to max level.


    Not sure what your hyperbole has to do with the point being discussed in this thread.

  13. #333
    I am happy with it. No more PvP unless I choose to = very happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    Not sure what your hyperbole has to do with the point being discussed in this thread.
    Maybe you should read the quote, being brain dead isen't a good quality .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    Not sure what your hyperbole has to do with the point being discussed in this thread.
    Not sure it was hyperbole as much as it was making fun of someone else who was mocking the OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
    I am happy with it. No more PvP unless I choose to = very happy.
    I am in 100% agreement with you.
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    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

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    Quote Originally Posted by re1gn1te View Post
    Maybe you should read the quote, being brain dead isen't a good quality .

    If you are going to insult someone by saying they are brain dead. You should at least check your spelling.



    I did read his post. Still don't see what your post was trying to accomplish. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    If you are going to insult someone by saying they are brain dead. You should at least check your spelling.



    I did read his post. Still don't see what your post was trying to accomplish. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.
    Sorry monkey no one can help you now.

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    I've been playing this game since 2007 on only PVE servers and have never gotten tricked into flagging up. Not sure I see the issue. It's pretty hard these days to grief flag people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by re1gn1te View Post
    Sorry monkey no one can help you now.
    Can we keep it civil please and stay on topic?
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edoran View Post
    I've been playing this game since 2007 on only PVE servers and have never gotten tricked into flagging up. Not sure I see the issue. It's pretty hard these days to grief flag people.
    It is indeed, the only thing that should be changed would be smart heals as you can't actually control that. Everything else is just bads complaining.

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