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    Question Pakistani teen allowed to stay in Sweden

    The deportation of a teenage girl from Sweden back to her homeland has been blocked at the 11th hour by the Swedish Migration Board after the threat of genital mutilation and arranged marriage was factored into her case.

    Kainat Syeda, 16, faced being sent back to Pakistan on February 15th with her mother. She has lived in the Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby for the past three years, and has been locked in a battle with The Migration Court of Appeals (Migrationsdomstolen) to secure permanent residency.

    She claimed that if the deportation was carried through she would be forced to marry a man 25 years her senior and undergo genital mutilation in advance of any wedding.

    However, the Swedish Migration Board (Migrationsverket) has stepped in to block the process citing new evidence. A new case for Syeda and her mother was registered with the board on Wednesday.

    "When examining the family's asylum application neither the threat of forced marriage or genital mutilation was pleaded as grounds for asylum. Consequently, the details of the case were not known to the Migration Board or the court," the Migration Board said in a statement.

    Swedish media reported that Syeda's birth father abandoned her as a child as he wanted a boy. Her mother met a new man, who had a residency permit in Sweden, and they moved to Rinkeby in northern Stockholm, but the man died suddenly in 2011 before he was able to adopt Syeda.

    Syeda's attempts to remain in Sweden have sparked a social media campaign with a hashtag #låtkainatstanna (let Kainat stay) generating huge momentum online. A protest rally was due to be held in Rinkeby on Friday, just 24 hours before Syeda and her mother's original deportation date.

    "My future is here, not in Pakistan. It's dark there," she told the Aftonbladet newspaper before the latest development in her deportation struggle..

    Syeda added to the Nyheter24 news site "My uncle will marry me off and before that I will be mutilated," in relation to what she may face on her return home.

    As a result of the new case being lodged the girl's deportation, along with that of her mother, will be stopped until further notice.
    http://www.thelocal.se/20140213/depo...i-teen-blocked

    Do you guys think it is okay to not deport someone when in an extreme situation like her or should they be deported regardless because of the law?

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    Why not mention these things in the application? Seems to me like it's made up afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    http://www.thelocal.se/20140213/depo...i-teen-blocked

    Do you guys think it is okay to not deport someone when in an extreme situation like her or should they be deported regardless because of the law?
    Case by case, but I think in cases with substantial evidence that deporting them could lead to physical abuse or death directly, granting them asylum is a noble thing to do. Far cry between this though and many U.S. states that won't deport Mexican nationals or central American immigrants who are here illegally and kill through drunk driving etc. "My home country really sucks, don't make me go back!" isn't apples to apples with this girl's situation.

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    Case by case is exactly the right answer.

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    Not okay to deport someone only to have them face a terrible situation like that when they arrive.
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    I wonder what grounds it was granted upon, but i'm fine with this; It's a case by case thing i'd hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manakin View Post
    I wonder what grounds it was granted upon, but i'm fine with this; It's a case by case thing i'd hope.
    Well, the article's thin on details, but it looks like they didn't plead asylum when they originally came to Sweden. Her mother's boyfriend had a residency permit. It seems like her mother was planning on marrying the guy and he was planning on adopting the girl, but then he died suddenly before that could happen. That marriage would most likely have been all that was needed, which would mean they wouldn't have had any reason to claim other extenuating circumstances on their original application for entry. Not listing every reason does not mean those reasons are eliminated, it just means you felt they weren't necessary to mention at the time. And they've suddenly become relevant, with the boyfriend's sudden death and facing deportation.

    That's admittedly conjecture, but there's nothing about their story that seems hinky on its face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindahuge View Post
    Case by case, but I think in cases with substantial evidence that deporting them could lead to physical abuse or death directly, granting them asylum is a noble thing to do. Far cry between this though and many U.S. states that won't deport Mexican nationals or central American immigrants who are here illegally and kill through drunk driving etc. "My home country really sucks, don't make me go back!" isn't apples to apples with this girl's situation.
    I'm fine with this case if it's true but there's cases where there have been people "fleeing their homecountry", citing "There's people who want to kill me because I murdered someone in their family" as reason for asylum application. I don't care if it could lead to physical abuse or death for them when they openly admit they murdered someone and flee after that, to another country. They should not be granted asylum.

    Or people lying about their age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    I'm fine with this case if it's true but there's cases where there have been people "fleeing their homecountry", citing "There's people who want to kill me because I murdered someone in their family" as reason for asylum application. I don't care if it could lead to physical abuse or death for them when they openly admit they murdered someone and flee after that, to another country. They should not be granted asylum.

    Or people lying about their age.
    The threat of genital mutilation is very real, however. Especially if she's from one of the tribal areas.
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    It is my birthright as a human being, and this girl's too, to migrate and settle where ever I can find work, food and shelter without violating any law or harming anyone.

    So yeah, deportation just on the grounds "you were born in the wrong country, sucker! Now go away!" is always wrong in my book.

    She should be allowed to stay, damn right.

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    Thumbs up to Sweden for keeping the compassion alive in humanity. They did the right thing.

    Often times, the law doesn't take a person's well-being into account. It's good to see there are still some people with a heart beating in their chest.

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    Case by case, that's why people get paid to review them otherwise a computer could do the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    The threat of genital mutilation is very real, however. Especially if she's from one of the tribal areas.
    What makes me suspicious about it is the fact that it wasn't brought up in the asylum application at first. It seems to me like it's something that was made up afterwards. Why would you leave something like that out in an asylum application?

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    If she/her husband is no part of the Bohra minority the probabillity that it is a lie skyrockets not that I really care.
    Its not somalia we are talking about only ethnic minoritys perform it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    What makes me suspicious about it is the fact that it wasn't brought up in the asylum application at first. It seems to me like it's something that was made up afterwards. Why would you leave something like that out in an asylum application?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    What makes me suspicious about it is the fact that it wasn't brought up in the asylum application at first. It seems to me like it's something that was made up afterwards. Why would you leave something like that out in an asylum application?
    Maybe because you are ashamed of it and it wasn't necessary?
    Maybe cecause you weren't that well informed before you actually moved to that new country and thus didn't realize it was a legit reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Maybe because you are ashamed of it and it wasn't necessary?
    Maybe cecause you weren't that well informed before you actually moved to that new country and thus didn't realize it was a legit reason?
    Yeah they probably rolled the dice. PLEASE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Yeah they probably rolled the dice. PLEASE
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    Since I'm in favor of much more flexible immigration as a moral imperative, this particular one seems like a pretty easy one to me. You don't send an innocent young girl to a life of suffering. I've yet to see an argument for deportation of innocent people that doesn't amount to, "I'm not keen on brown people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I've yet to see an argument for deportation of innocent people that doesn't amount to, "I'm not keen on brown people".
    Fraud Asylum caims or safe Homecountrys.
    Its like the guy whose House burned to the ground and well he wants to stay after he crashed in your place.
    Well you later learn his house didn't burn down he just likes yours better. Its assinine to construct racism out of missfired goodwill.

    They are innocent that doesnt give them a reason to claim asylum.
    Why do you claim its racist to apply Laws to "brown people"?
    Are they above them? Oh so very racist of you and in fact those laws don't make a distinction based on skincolor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    "I'm going to pretend I understand how people from other cultures think and apply the way I think to everybody else."
    Iam going to pretend Humans are morons and they threw a dart on the map while not having oral or other informations available to make the choice in the first place while having the ability to buy plane tickets to sweden.
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