Will Tinkers be a class in WoW?

[Drilnos]

I don't really understand why 0% is winning by such a large margin without anyone saying why...

The number of people who think the chance is greater than 0% actually outnumber the number who voted for 0%. The issue is that 0% is the catch-all response for the people who dismiss the concept out of hand, the people who don't think there are going to be any more classes, the people who for whatever reason like to antagonize tinker supporters and the people who actually gave the question some thought and arrived at 0% without any preconceptions. It's several poll options for the price of one.

[sourmonkey]

My question is why should they be?
Tinkerer sounds a lot like engineer which is a profession in wow .

While some games structure allows for such classes I think wow doesn't support it .
A tinkerer would be a class that is too either too much like a rogue/hunter mixed with engineering .
And you already can pick those things you can be a rogue or hunter with eng. profession .

Adding mediocre classes / sub classes with wows infrastructure just wouldn't fit at his juncture in the game

[Teriz]

Im not lumping anything together. There's been new threads every day since months before WoD was announced. Demon Hunter vs Tinker has been going on for ages and its not even constructive arguments. Just fan boys. Its fucking annoying.

No one is forcing you to participate in any of those threads Sukhoi. That includes this one.

[vindicatorx]

Adding mediocre classes / sub classes with wows infrastructure just wouldn't fit at his juncture in the game

My thoughts exactly. I don't see why Blizzard would add a half-assed class like tinker to the game at this point. I hope there is 0 % chance of them adding it.

[Teriz]

My question is why should they be?

Because we're encountering technology in the game world that far exceeds anything we've seen in the Engineering profession. Also we have two player races that utilize far more advanced technology than the Engineering profession, and it would make sense for them to be able to play a class that reflects their technological know-how.

Tinkerer sounds a lot like engineer which is a profession in wow .

Then call it a mechanic, a machinist, an inventor, a gearsmith, a siegecrafter, a mekgineer, an artificer, etc.

While some games structure allows for such classes I think wow doesn't support it .

You mean the same game where we just fought a giant robotic scorpion, a Goblin in a robot suit, and a gigantic mechanical engine all in the same raid?

A tinkerer would be a class that is too either too much like a rogue/hunter mixed with engineering .
And you already can pick those things you can be a rogue or hunter with eng. profession .

I can roll a Rogue or a Hunter and max out the Engineering profession, and still can't do any of the stuff Tinkers have been shown to do throughout the Warcraft games.

[Goretex]

I thinka demon hunter has a better chance than a tinker lol.

[Sukhoi]

No one is forcing you to participate in any of those threads Sukhoi. That includes this one.

I can ignore your posts all i want. What i cant ignore is
"Will Tinker be the next class"
"Will demon hunters be the next class"
"My demon hunter idea"
"My tinker idea"

Seriously. It doesnt end.

You see how 0% is dominating the poll? No one really cares. Go make like a fan fiction site or something where you all and the new biased mod can go play.

Infracted, post constructively.

[Goretex]

Tinkerer seems for more a steampunk mmo than WoW.

[Xeones]

I can ignore your posts all i want. What i cant ignore is
"Will Tinker be the next class"
"Will demon hunters be the next class"
"My demon hunter idea"
"My tinker idea"

Seriously. It doesnt end.

You see how 0% is dominating the poll? No one really cares. Go make like a fan fiction site or something where you all and the new biased mod can go play.

You seem somewhat upset. Maybe you should do an enjoyable activity and cool down.

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I thinka demon hunter has a better chance than a tinker lol.

Demon hunter overlaps heavily with two existing classes and the other direction the class leans, mana burns, is a mechanic that blizzard removed from the game for balance reasons. I can't really rationalize it being made into a class.

[Teriz]

Tinkerer seems for more a steampunk mmo than WoW.

The same WoW where Goblins were driving around in cars on a highway? The same WoW where Gnomes ride around on robotic ostriches?
The same WoW where an Orc steals a super-engine and takes it back in time to mechanize the Orchish horde 30 years in the past?

I rode into Pandaria on a giant flying aircraft carrier complete with airplanes and helicopters. Howabout you?

[Sukhoi]

You seem somewhat upset. Maybe you should do an enjoyable activity and cool down.

Or you guys can grow up and stop spamming the forums? Idk seems like a better idea

[Goretex]

You seem somewhat upset. Maybe you should do an enjoyable activity and cool down.

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Demon hunter overlaps heavily with two existing classes and the other direction the class leans, mana burns, is a mechanic that blizzard removed from the game for balance reasons. I can't really rationalize it being made into a class.

The way I see it as is demon Hunter was basically Illidan, it could be implemented if they wanted to do it, leans toward the fantasy genre rather than steampunk. Tinkerer leans toward or overlapping a profession and leans toward a more steampunk genre not fantasy. Yea we have badguys with robotss globlins and gnomes in robots but they the bad guys. Idk putting tinkerer into the game just seems lame and too much outside the fantasy genre. But just my opinion, if they do put tinkerer into the game sometime I wouldn't play one but would love to kill one.

[Teriz]

The way I see it as is demon Hunter was basically Illidan, it could be implemented if they wanted to do it, leans toward the fantasy genre rather than steampunk. Tinkerer leans toward or overlapping a profession and leans toward a more steampunk genre not fantasy. Yea we have badguys with robotss globlins and gnomes in robots but they the bad guys. Idk putting tinkerer into the game just seems lame and too much outside the fantasy genre. But just my opinion, if they do put tinkerer into the game sometime I wouldn't play one but would love to kill one.

Post like these are simply annoying, because they are completely divorced from facts, and are hypocritical to boot.

Tinker barely overlaps with a profession, yet you're fine with Demon Hunter which overlaps with at least 3 classes? Okay.

WoW isn't steampunk, despite the fact that we have advanced technology throughout the entire game? Okay.

We only have Tinker badguys, yet Gnomes and Goblins utilize advanced technology and they are part of the player races? Okay.

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but an informed opinion is superior to an uninformed opinion.

[Edoran]

This is a new and original idea!

[Goretex]

The same WoW where Goblins were driving around in cars on a highway? The same WoW where Gnomes ride around on robotic ostriches?
The same WoW where an Orc steals a super-engine and takes it back in time to mechanize the Orchish horde 30 years in the past?

I rode into Pandaria on a giant flying aircraft carrier complete with airplanes and helicopters. Howabout you?

I'll be honest the goblins driving around and shit did kinda bug me, it went steampunk. After you're out of their zone it gets back to normal fantasy a bit. What is this super- engine? first I've heard of it.

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Post like these are simply annoying, because they are completely divorced from facts, and are hypocritical to boot.

Tinker barely overlaps with a profession, yet you're fine with Demon Hunter which overlaps with at least 3 classes? Okay.

WoW isn't steampunk, despite the fact that we have advanced technology throughout the entire game? Okay.

We only have Tinker badguys, yet Gnomes and Goblins utilize advanced technology and they are part of the player races? Okay.

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but an informed opinion is superior to an uninformed opinion.

Yes WoW isn't steampunk and hopefully it stays that way. Putting in a tinkerer class could change that entirely. Less steampunk in WoW is better imo.

[Xeones]

The way I see it as is demon Hunter was basically Illidan, it could be implemented if they wanted to do it, leans toward the fantasy genre rather than steampunk. Tinkerer leans toward or overlapping a profession and leans toward a more steampunk genre not fantasy. Yea we have badguys with robotss globlins and gnomes in robots but they the bad guys. Idk putting tinkerer into the game just seems lame and too much outside the fantasy genre. But just my opinion, if they do put tinkerer into the game sometime I wouldn't play one but would love to kill one.

Well all the classes are based off at least one WC3 hero. Demon Hunter would be a leather wearing dual weilding agility hero, which reminds me heavily of rogues. It used Mana Burn as it's main attacking ability which blizzard dislikes from a balance perspective for pvp actively removing it from priests and the drain from warlocks. Immolate and meta which are warlock abilities. It's not impossible I suppose, I mean if you look at monks the brewmaster spec being heavily based on the brewmaster from WC3, with mist weaver being unique, and windwalker just being generic melee they obviously have to create entirely new concepts for the specs... But I just can't see where they would take Demon Hunter. It would probably have a tank spec, but do we really need a 4th melee leather agility dps class? If anything I see it as a 4th "hero spec" I just can't see a class coming from it.

Steampunk to me is as much an artistic thing as it is a particular genre, so I don't really see it that way myself. The only reason I see it as likely is because I can't imagine any other class being as unique as this one. Everything else people suggest is either not unique in any way, or unrelated to WC3 which Blizz hasn't been willing to break with yet. Personally I'd be happy not seeing any more classes, but if there was one this one is at the top of my list as being most likely because of it's merits of being unique, interesting, and having a basis in WC3. Also comments about profession overlap are really baffling and make zero sense to me.

[Ethas]

Who is that? No.

I can ignore your posts all i want. What i cant ignore is
"Will Tinker be the next class"
"Will demon hunters be the next class"
"My demon hunter idea"
"My tinker idea"

Seriously. It doesnt end.

You see how 0% is dominating the poll? No one really cares. Go make like a fan fiction site or something where you all and the new biased mod can go play.

Pretty much sums up my opinion. We are not interested.

[Goretex]

Well all the classes are based off at least one WC3 hero. Demon Hunter would be a leather wearing dual weilding agility hero, which reminds me heavily of rogues. It used Mana Burn as it's main attacking ability which blizzard dislikes from a balance perspective for pvp actively removing it from priests and the drain from warlocks. Immolate and meta which are warlock abilities. It's not impossible I suppose, I mean if you look at monks the brewmaster spec being heavily based on the brewmaster from WC3, with mist weaver being unique, and windwalker just being generic melee they obviously have to create entirely new concepts for the specs... But I just can't see where they would take Demon Hunter. It would probably have a tank spec, but do we really need a 4th melee leather agility dps class? If anything I see it as a 4th "hero spec" I just can't see a class coming from it.

Steampunk to me is as much an artistic thing as it is a particular genre, so I don't really see it that way myself. The only reason I see it as likely is because I can't imagine any other class being as unique as this one. Everything else people suggest is either not unique in any way, or unrelated to WC3 which Blizz hasn't been willing to break with yet. Personally I'd be happy not seeing any more classes, but if there was one this one is at the top of my list as being most likely because of it's merits of being unique, interesting, and having a basis in WC3. Also comments about profession overlap are really baffling and make zero sense to me.

I agree with you a bit, I'd be happy if there were no new classes. I was just saying for me I could see a demon hunter being more likely thana tinkerer. Even though I'm not pushing for another class. I'd rather play demon hunter if they did put it in game, I wouldn't play a tinkerer cuz it's uniqueness bugs the hell out of me just hard to see where it would fit exactly. Who knows maybe they put both the classes in the game in the future to shut ppl up lol.

[AbalDarkwind]

Yes WoW isn't steampunk and hopefully it stays that way. Putting in a tinkerer class could change that entirely. Less steampunk in WoW is better imo.

You realize that the Iron Horde is, basically, the steampunk Horde, right? Tanks, mecha Gronn, flamethrowers...the whole nine yards. Not to mention, we just fought a scorpion tank and a Goblin in a mech in SoO.

[Drilnos]

The way I see it as is demon Hunter was basically Illidan, it could be implemented if they wanted to do it, leans toward the fantasy genre rather than steampunk. Tinkerer leans toward or overlapping a profession and leans toward a more steampunk genre not fantasy. Yea we have badguys with robotss globlins and gnomes in robots but they the bad guys. Idk putting tinkerer into the game just seems lame and too much outside the fantasy genre. But just my opinion, if they do put tinkerer into the game sometime I wouldn't play one but would love to kill one.

Plenty of fantasy works have steampunk elements. At the moment I'm hard-pressed to think of one that doesn't. They're different genres, but it's extremely common to see them blended together. WoW is the result of one such blending.

I actually have more difficulty reconciling demon hunters with WoW, at least ones which become common. They're like the franchise's foray into the young-adult-supernatural-romance/Underworld subgenre of fantasy, where you can't throw a rock without hitting a smoldering angst-ridden superhuman half-something with a tattoo and no shirt. And do me a favor. Throw it hard. Fine in small doses, but expand on it and you risk completely Twilighting up the place.