Windwalker opener

[eflow]

TEB stacks reset on boss pull everywhere, if they didn't then WW would have the sickest burst out there and it would be a royal pain to build stacks constantly before the boss pull to have 20 at the start. Chi does not reset, TEB stacks do, as well as the buff if you use your stacks before the pull it will get erased.

I believe he's talking about different things.

on pull:
- chi doesn't reset
- TEB stacks reset
- TEB counter doesn't reset.

If you use FoF before the pull (20+ sec so it will be up again on the pull), you get 3 out of 4 chi counter to generate TEB stack. So the first TP/BoK/RSK you use will already generate 1-2 charges of TEB.

It's not "OMGSOMUCHDMG!!!1!!" but hey .. it's a couple extra %dmg here and there.

Back on the thread, I simply do this:

- 1-2 expel harm before the pull
- FoF 30sec before the pull
- pre pot

- pull:
1) xuen + chi wave while running at the mob
2) TP to get the buff up and generate the TEB stack I mentioned previously
3) Chi brew x2 followed by TEB
5) RSK
6) Jab
7) FoF.

I don't know if it's the best possible opener, but it's the one the got the best results for me so far. Depending on how many stacks of TEB I get (mastery rng), my openers vary between 900k-1.2mi dps.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...uras&source=10

but obviously there's gear involved in that =p
http://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/azralon/Leeflow

If you're going to use FoF to snapshot trinkets, it's actually much better to use it at the end of Harom's or AoC proc. Thus, extending your 14k agi for a bonus 3 seconds where you would have no proc. TeD ticks down.. so while you do get the benefit of using FoF at a really high stack, you're also wasting time during a perfectly good trinket proc on an ability that's usually not a dps increase.

personally I don't think that's a good plan. I use FoF with TED while it has 50% or more stacks. Never in the end.

Full FoF with 20k+ agility is MUCH better than FoF with 13k agi. This is what I'm talking about.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...false%24113656

if the pins are not up, mark Restless agility > Vicious > Fists of fury (in that order). You'll see that most of the time, my fists of fury is being used on the initial half of TED proc duration. Well, I just like it better that way.

here is the WoL version if you are not familiar with warcraft logs .. http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=8185&e=8438 (keep in mind that our dumb druid uploaded this one in portuguese -_- )

[Totaltotemic]

personally I don't think that's a good plan. I use FoF with TED while it has 50% or more stacks. Never in the end.

Full FoF with 20k+ agility is MUCH better than FoF with 13k agi. This is what I'm talking about.

That ignores the fact that you can AA and use other abilities while TED is ticking down and still get the Agility benefit. You cannot do the same for the Haromm's proc that ends abruptly. And no, FoF with 50k Agility (double trinket proc + amount from gear at start of TED) is not "much better" than FoF with just 40k Agility, in fact it's only about 10% more damage from that ability. That difference is not worth losing buffed AAs and abilities instead of losing unbuffed AAs and abilities. About 40% of the damage of FoF is the baked-in damage of AAs that would have happened instead, so replacing unbuffed AAs with damage equal to buffed ones is a much bigger gain that replacing buffed ones with other buffed ones that have 2-3k more Agi worth of AP behind them.