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I'd have to find the interview again, but I'm pretty sure it was Spader talking about it. It's one of the reasons he wanted to do it, because his performance wouldn't be lost behind a bunch of garbled robot effects.

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This may have been what I read:

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That doesn't necessarily mean there's no synthetics added on. Just that Spader himself is not putting on any voices. He definitely sounds loads different than he does in the trailer. But the funny thing is there's not much roboticness to his voice in the trailer either (Though I think there's a hint). But his voice is a lot deeper and huskier and threatening. Here it's higher, a lot more normal.

[Kelimbror]

That doesn't necessarily mean there's no synthetics added on. Just that Spader himself is not putting on any voices. He definitely sounds loads different than he does in the trailer. But the funny thing is there's not much roboticness to his voice in the trailer either (Though I think there's a hint). But his voice is a lot deeper and huskier and threatening. Here it's higher, a lot more normal.

Maybe, but I'm not even sure if that's what I read. And I can't watch youtube here, so I have no reference for the conversation. Some people's normal voices are pretty brutal. If you watched Cumberbatch doing Smaug, that was pretty crazy stuff. He wasn't using a voice, but reaching for his deepest level as loud as possible to the point where he was literally shredding his vocal cords and bleeding because of it.

In any case, it isn't clear from what I posted so we'll just have to see the movie. All clips I've seen (since I can't see this one) sound like James Spader talking, not a robot at all. That's perfectly fine since Spader is already an evil robot irl.

[Zoaric]

Feige had an interesting thing to say aboot the MCU as a whole; it seems they have
everything planned even more thoroughly than some had surmised now.

For as forward thinking as we always try to be, there's only so far you can tend to think, and our plan is fairly solid for those four or five years. I've never considered it in the ROM Spaceknight vernacular, necessarily. So much of the anxiety at Marvel has been 'Who do we have contracts with, who is still involved'? You want to plot out all these years of imagination based on amazing comics, but you need real people to make time in their lives to do, and to make career decisions to do it. That has been the hardest thing to manage... but for the first time, that's all settled. It's all settled through [2019]. It's all set. And we're able to focus now just on [telling stories]. It's everything we announced last October, and we've added your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man to the mix... and it's all set.

http://www.movieweb.com/spider-man-m...t-phase-3-plan

[Mahourai]

Still hoping for the "Tony Stark secretly rules Hydra" reveal.

[Arrowstormen]

Feige had an interesting thing to say aboot the MCU as a whole; it seems they have
everything planned even more thoroughly than some had surmised now.


http://www.movieweb.com/spider-man-m...t-phase-3-plan

Plans change, but I think most people knew they had to have things planned out before they decided to announce it.

Still hoping for the "Tony Stark secretly rules Hydra" reveal.

That sounds like the kind of thing that happens in comic books when they really should just have wrapped up and pulled the plug.

[BloodyAngel12]

Nah but i could see Tony Stark being head of Shield

[Arrowstormen]

Nah but i could see Tony Stark being head of Shield

SHIELD no longer exists as far as I remember.

[Ausr]

SHIELD no longer exists as far as I remember.

Agents of Shield was supposed to have Coulson revive it as the head guy if I remember. I don't know if they're trying to tie in the two, though. Supposed to explain his "resurrection" as a Kree thing.

[Lucetia]

Feige had an interesting thing to say aboot the MCU as a whole; it seems they have
everything planned even more thoroughly than some had surmised now.


http://www.movieweb.com/spider-man-m...t-phase-3-plan

I remember him saying at one point they had everything planned up to 2028, but only up to about 2020 (article says 2019) is confirmed. Everything else after that is the route they'd like to go, but things can change. I would assume that if the lesser knowns do really they'd use the TV shows as more of an outlet instead of just movies.

[Mahourai]

That sounds like the kind of thing that happens in comic books when they really should just have wrapped up and pulled the plug.

RDJ wants to leave the franchise and all the groundwork has been laid with Stark "accidentally" making or contributing to doomsday weapons multiple times.

[Kelimbror]

all the groundwork has been laid

Yes, all that groundwork on how Tony Stark is secretly evil....


...I don't even. How are people this far off the mark? What is in their water?

[Mahourai]

Yes, all that groundwork on how Tony Stark is secretly evil....

I didn't say he was secretly evil. It's not much of a secret.

Tony Stark designed, or at least contributed to the building of, giant flying SHIELD death fortresses in Captain America: Winter Soldier. The entire point of the resolution of Winter Soldier is that flying death fortresses cannot be used responsibly by anyone - something that escapes Stark.

What is his next move? He designs an even better flying death machine named Ultron.

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In Avengers 1 we see that the SHIELD, and consequently the Avengers, are literally controlled by a shadowy cabal who orders New York City to be nuked. The Illuminati runs the "good guys".

[Arrowstormen]

I didn't say he was secretly evil. It's not much of a secret.

Tony Stark designed, or at least contributed to the building of, giant flying SHIELD death fortresses in Captain America: Winter Soldier. The entire point of the resolution of Winter Soldier is that flying death fortresses cannot be used responsibly by anyone - something that escapes Stark.

What is his next move? He designs an even better flying death machine named Ultron.

EDIT:

In Avengers 1 we see that the SHIELD, and consequently the Avengers, are literally controlled by a shadowy cabal who orders New York City to be nuked. The Illuminati runs the "good guys".

Didn't know the government was called Illuminati these days.

Tony is not evil, he just believes weapons are bad if they're not in the right hands (i.e. the hands of the superheroes). He's just wrong because he don't know what those right hands are.

[Mahourai]

Didn't know the government was called Illuminati these days.

SHIELD does not answer to the President of the United States, or any other official US government functionary. It answers to a mysterious shadowy cabal, accountable to no one.

[Arrowstormen]

SHIELD does not answer to the President of the United States, or any other official US government functionary. It answers to a mysterious shadowy cabal, accountable to no one.

That's total bollocks. Keep your fanon and speculation separate from what's known.

[George Costanza]

SHIELD does not answer to the President of the United States, or any other official US government functionary. It answers to a mysterious shadowy cabal, accountable to no one.

You are crazy go talk to a doctor.

[Mahourai]

There's literally a scene in Avengers that depicts exactly that.

What do you think the "World Security Council" is supposed to represent, exactly? They run SHIELD. They ordered a nuclear strike on NYC. The good guys are the bad guys. That's literally the entire plot of Captain America: Winter Soldier.

EDIT:

The problem in Winter Soldier is not that there are too many secret Hydra operatives inside SHIELD. It's that SHIELD is no longer distinguishable from Hydra on an ideological level. This is why the organization must be destroyed, instead of simply purged. Captain America is already - properly - horrified by the floating death fortresses even before he finds out that the evil super Nazis have taken control of them. This is because they are simply evil, not misused - there is no good way to properly use a floating death fortress. This is why, at the end of the film, Cap and his allies must have them turn on each other and destroy each other. No one can be allowed to wield these machines.

Tony Stark, meanwhile, is fixing the "flaws" in his death fortresses that allowed them to be compromised. The Ultron system will have no such weaknesses.

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That's total bollocks. Keep your fanon and speculation separate from what's known.

Did you fall asleep during the scene in Avengers when Fury calls up the faceless, shadowed World Security Council and they tell him NYC is being nuked? This is not "speculation".

[Arrowstormen]

Did you fall asleep during the scene in Avengers when Fury calls up the faceless, shadowed World Security Council and they tell him NYC is being nuked? This is not "speculation".

It is, because you're speculating that it wasn't simply members of the government, which it was. XCOM has the same thing going on.

[Mahourai]

It is, because you're speculating that it wasn't simply members of the government, which it was.

It's named the World Security Council. It's obviously not a part of the US government. That's why "World" is in the name.

[Arrowstormen]

It's named the World Security Council. It's obviously not a part of the US government. That's why "World" is in the name.

Since Iron Man, SHIELD has been known to be part of the US government. Heck, the "H" means "Homeland". I don't remember it being called the World Security Council, but even if it was, I don't think a lot of thought was put into it besides the fact that it would seem weird if America handled an alien invasion alone.