Germans vs Nazis and concentration death camps.

[slime]

Thanks for the answers, something I've wondered about for a while.

[Deleted]

Nazi concentration camps...

And take it from someone who has been to Auschwitz and Birkenau (1991). They are some of the most horrifying places on the planet to this day and 25 fucking horses couldn´t drag me back there.

[Yriel]

I have a question I'd like to ask someone who knows a lot about the era of WW2. When it came to the Nazi (German) tanks, planes and other vehicles of war, who built those? I mean was it BMW and Mercedes? And if it was how are those companies still around and so profitable. They obviously profitted from Nazi war crimes, and what the Nazis did generally throughout that period. It would be mind blowing to me that those companies existed before the war - through the war - profitted from the war (and the general behavior the Nazis demonstrated) - and exist to this day.

I don't see the problem. Almost the whole german industry was involved in the war in some part. So what do you expect should have happened to them after the war ? Do you want to have every bakery disbanded because they baked bread that soldiers ate ?
Somehow after a war life has to go on, especially since the US wanted Germany as a buffer against the soviets. Companies that used forced labor were punished for it but aside from that, most just went on.
Whats so bad about mercedes benz building military trucks for the army in the war ?

[huth]

for some reasosn, it's most common in Germany.

Grammar, mostly. In german, that term just means that they were in poland, not that the polish had anything to do with it.

[Mehrunes]

can´t answer your poll, how i´ve learned it they are called concentration camps, the addition of location is just to tell where this/these particular concentration camps was/were

so a polish concentration camp would be a concentration camp located on polish soil

it´s pretty obvious who run them, Nazis, but even that doesn´t mean they were german run, because there weren´t only german nazis

The thing is, the nazi camps in Poland were not run by Polish people. Poland was occupied country, not a collaborating one like Romania. Or Croatia. Which also brings to light the issue that not all death camps in German-alligned Europe were ran by the Nazi. Croatian camps were ran by Ustaše. Which emphasizes the fact that calling them "Nazi death camps" is not pointless or redundant.

The point is, Nazi camps in Poland were build by Germans, on territory controlled by Germans and were ran by Germans and to some degree by Soviet prisoners of war or by Volksdeutsche, mainly from Ukraine. Polish people were sometimes in the Sonderkommando, whose members were eventually killed like all the other prisoners and a new Sonderkommando would be appointed by the commanders of the camps.

And the thing is, term "Polish" refers to both territory and nationality. And if a person is uneducated, how can they know the difference? The answer is, they can't and they can then transfer German atrocities of these camps onto Poland, which is false, and hurtful to a country that lost the most of its people in terms of percentages.

Language tip: adding "in Poland" at the end of "Nazi death camps" also tells the location, but without causing any confusion about who ran them.

Never heard it referred to as a Polish concentration camp. Sounds like something you made up.

And yet there's an article even on English Wikipedia about that term, let alone Polish one. The more you know.

Grammar, mostly. In german, that term just means that they were in poland, not that the polish had anything to do with it.

There are also certain elements in Germany that are not happy with the terms of German-Polish Border Treaty or Treaty of Good Neighbourship and Friendly Cooperation that simply spread misinformation to sling shit at Poland.

[Endus]

Okay, a thread arguing about who is/isn't a "Nazi" and starting out with a nation-bashing troll post claiming all Germans are Nazis forever, this isn't how we do things. Locking this.