It's Supreme Court day! Hobby Lobby VS Obamacare.

[ranku]

They can pay for it themselves and not get hand outs form their employer. Not a hard concept. That would be responsible.

Or just don't have sex and risk it at all if you work at Hobby Lobby. Lol.

just because someone uses birth control pills does not mean that they are having sex. heck you'd be surprised how many high school girls use contraceptives despite being virgins.
birth control pills have a lot of uses.

[Xeones]

if that was the case, wouldn't animal sacrifice also be legal?

It is last I checked. Been a couple cases of santarea (whatever it's called).

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According to what in the constitution?

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Are you serious here?

[Reeve]

That is your interpretation of the first amendment. Which is very convenient for the topic at hand. My interpretation is what it says: Freedom of religion.

It doesn't say that. Let me help you with the actual text:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

And the Supreme Court's take on it:

"Freedom of religion means freedom to hold an opinion or belief, but not to take action in violation of social duties or subversive to good order,"

[Korgoth]

Now medicine is an air freshener. News to me.

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

[badzerath]

if that was the case, wouldn't animal sacrifice also be legal?

As ridiculous as your worst case scenario is. Yes.

[Deleted]

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

I'm totally Ok with people paying for me to have sex, why is that an issue?

[Deleted]

just because someone uses birth control pills does not mean that they are having sex. heck you'd be surprised how many high school girls use contraceptives despite being virgins.
birth control pills have a lot of uses.

I don't understand why so many people here are against people having sex... Wait, this is an internet forum? Now I do understand

[Xeones]

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

How is it necessary for you have a twisted view of it?

The persons body is their own responsibility, not yours. Denying them access to medicine that can prevent expensive pregnancies that you can find your tax dollars dealing with afterwards is far cheaper and more responsible than what ever nonsense you just put forth.

People have sex. It's going to happen. Unless it's porn or whoring no one is being paid to have sex. Ugh I feel disgusted even seriously answering this.

[Deleted]

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

Because people have sex no matter what, its like people drinking water or eating food. Thus contraceptives are a necessity and not a luxury.
(I'm also in favor of making condoms cheaper trough tax money, if thats not already the case)

[Amnaught]

I'd like to make one small note. If it becomes legal for them to have a religion that's against birth-control... And that exempts them from paying it... What's stopping "Awesomism" from becoming a real religion, that is totally 100% against taxes in general? And minimum wages? "We pay our people in love and acceptance."

[badzerath]

It doesn't say that. Let me help you with the actual text:



And the Supreme Court's take on it:

I mean "prohibiting the free exercise thereof". You were saying? Why would we force someone to violate their beliefs to pay for your sex?

[Reeve]

They can pay for it themselves and not get hand outs form their employer. Not a hard concept. That would be responsible.

Or just don't have sex and risk it at all if you work at Hobby Lobby. Lol.

It's not a hand out. It's part of their legally mandated compensation package, no different from a legally mandated minimum wage.

And "don't have sex" has never worked as a foolproof social strategy in the history of the world. Ever.

[ranku]

I'm totally Ok with people paying for me to have sex, why is that an issue?

that makes it sound like you've been prostituting -_-

[Vizardlorde]

It is last I checked. Been a couple cases of santarea (whatever it's called).

Santeria... I hate my countrymen.

[badzerath]

I'd like to make one small note. If it becomes legal for them to have a religion that's against birth-control... And that exempts them from paying it... What's stopping "Awesomism" from becoming a real religion, that is totally 100% against taxes in general? And minimum wages? "We pay our people in love and acceptance."

1. Common sense and reality.

2. Becoming a tax exempt established religion recognized the US federal government.


Try again.

[Healing Rain]

One thing I've thought about to determine my opinion on this is ask myself, if my teenage daughter or teenage son or a friend of mine came up to me and asked me to pay for their birth control I'd say no. I'd be a terrible parent/friend if I said yes.

[Deleted]

I mean "prohibiting the free exercise thereof". You were saying? Why would we force someone to violate their beliefs to pay for your sex?

They are not violating their believes, there believes say they can't use contraceptives, it doesn't give them any right to not follow the law.

[Deleted]

that makes it sound like you've been prostituting -_-

Or porn... I was aiming for porn.

I do prostituting on the side too, I even let people feel the goods before a purchase.

[Reeve]

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

Why should a company pay you to sleep under a roof, or eat, or wear clothing? The company pays you your compensation. You decide how to use it.

[Kasierith]

It's not medically necessary. Why should a company be paying for you to have sex? How is that in any way necessary?

Why is it necessary for others to pay for your drugs that enhance your quality of life, but don't directly prevent something from killing you? Example: you could technically get by with having constant heartburn and taking it down with Tums; you don't need omeprazole.