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  1. #101
    I don't really post on these forums often but i have noticed lately quite a few people pissed off about the information that is being reported through various dev interviews and what not.

    For those that are really pissed off, I would advise you to unsub if you are not happy with the service you are getting to justify the money you are spending just like I have. To the people defending blizzard good for you because you are standing up for a company, that you not only care about but enjoy their product and I am in no position to tell you otherwise.

    At the end of the day what really annoys me is that blizzard is being very hypocritical and expecting us to sympathize with them. On the one hand they tell us that having no flying to start the new expansion will take away this amazing and "savage" experience, but on the other hand they are clearly saying that leveling is annoying from 1-90. So that means I'm not going to be annoyed leveling from 90-100 so lets boost everyone else once again. In every expansion pack i have played i have yet to see all zones before i got to max level and that is not our fault, that is clearly a design problem, with this game and many other MMO's on the market.

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kededia View Post
    *•There is no guarantee that all character models will be done by release, but they hope to have most ready.

    Looks like Activision has started to push Blizzard towards a release...

    Message to blizz, if u dont have all char models done by release i wont order the expansion. How is that? Im glad i didnt preorder it. What a a bunch of liars.
    So you would rather they hold on to a completed game and delay release just because a couple models arent finished? That would be asinine. Im glad you arent in charge. Id rather they release it early with no models and patch them in as they get done

  3. #103

    Angry agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Kasherna View Post
    I think it was said that they are going to update the old character models before the BC ones. And now they are working on Female Draenei already, but not all models will be done in time? How could it be?...=\
    I'm totally with you!! this is what makes me angry! yeah they said They may not have all the models out by release date but that was for the draenei and the blood elf because they were 2 years ahead of the vanilla models. I'm really sad thinking that my favorite class the night elves are not going to be ready not even the male or the female.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacashamanica View Post
    The game will be released in december and not even with all new models? WTF blizzard! you are fooling everyone then with your "new models at game release " campaing publicity! what a shame . Blizzard is now full of liars and lazy fucks!
    You are an idiot. They never promised anything. Please find where it actually says blizz would have all models done at release or perish the thought.

    Blizzard not releasing everything at launch =/= Blizz never releasing them.

    An X-pac has a launch, and the rest of the expansion for content.


    Everybody got mad about my true sincerity related comments, Good, that proves it´s true.
    Lol, FLAWLESS LOGIC. FLAWLESS.
    *sarcasm off*
    No it doesnt, it just shows us you're raging really hard over a promise that never existed.

    They are still part of the demographic this boost is apparently aimed at and the fact they spend their time on MMO-C complaining about everything means that they are a better target for Blizzard than those that have quit and turned back completely on WOW. So why do you feel the need to dismiss and belittle their opinions?

    It is no more insane than expecting someone who has not played WOW since Wrath is going to hand over money for MOP and WOD to play a game they stopped playing over four years ago.
    Criticisms that are not constructive hold no value. Take a look around you:

    "Blizzard is now full of liars and lazy fucks!"

    "Seriously, everyone is waiting for information on WoD and we have to wait for new content for a year and we get some shitty interview about level 90 boosts?"

    "Yes, no one at Blizzard could possibly think of that right away... :S. No wonder people call eachother Blizzard apologists on here."

    "Lazy fucks is the best way to describe them, this expansion has only 2 new things added to the game and that's garrisons and new character models. Everything else is removing existing features. How exactly do you justify them not even being near beta 4 days away from April while making an expansion with more or less NOTHING new? They are sitting on their hands doing nothing, no beta, no "huge info dump" that they said they will give us, they are not even half way done with the character models."

    Your argument is invalid. While there are some good arguments here and there, it's mostly ignorant people, or bigots swarming around here with destructive things to say about Blizzard that in no way helps them. Same with on the official forums. People just attacking blizzard without anything good to say need to lie down and die. They are ruining the game themselves.


    It is equally insane to defend everything a company does as well, it goes both ways.
    They are no more defending than you are attacking. There's nothing wrong with showing someone a positive perspective opposed from the constant negative one you folks seem to have about everything.



    Seems funny most game studios can put out a whole game with hundreds of models in less time than its taken to get these models done.
    Blizzard takes their time with models so they can get shit done right. Everyone knows that. Also, what sets Blizz apart is the fact that:

    1. Blizzard just got their hands on this new engine
    2. Those companies didnt have a toxic community of haters crawling up their ass who are so impatient for the game that they would rather ask for unfinished models.
    3. These models need to support a wide range of computers that still goes back to those big clunkers from 05 when the game released.
    4. There are atleast 8-10 of these models getting done which is more than what blizzard does in a normal expansion. You could say that they're practically working overtime to get this shit out.
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    so i guess we will get most of the new models about half way through wod or maybe never, thanks blizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellrod View Post
    You are an idiot. They never promised anything. Please find where it actually says blizz would have all models done at release or perish the thought.

    Blizzard not releasing everything at launch=/= Blizz removing features.

    An X-pac has a launch, and the rest of the expansion for content.
    I agree that hyperbole of that nature isn't warranted, nor is it constructive. But...

    This line of thinking is silly. It also doesn't say that leveling in Draenor will be 100% complete, that dungeons and raids will be available at launch, that garrisons will have 100% functionality, or that they'll have finished the new talents.

    They have heavily promoted new character models as one of, if not THE biggest feature of the expansion. It is one of the big items on their product page. Having a key feature not implemented fully at launch, especially of this magnitude would be a pretty big fail. Imagine if BC launched with Draenei but no Blood Elves until the first patch. Or WotLK launching with the Death Knight starter quest incomplete. Or... Well, you get the point.

    If everyone is running around with shiny new character models except for say, male Trolls and female Night Elves, that's pretty bad. Their product planning should take the time frame into account, and if that can't meet their ship date for this massive feature, they really need to analyze what went wrong.

  7. #107
    They are so out of touch it is not even funny. Leveling up has zero impact on most people coming back.
    WoW having more subs than SWTOR is the same thing as Justin Bieber having more youtube plays than Tupac. Just because its more popular doesn't mean its good.
    Warcraft Lore has gone from one of the most vast and interesting stories in all of gaming to a bad Thrall Fanfic by Chris Metzen.
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  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Mellrod View Post
    Blizzard takes their time so they can get shit done right. Everyone knows that. Also, what sets blizzard apart is the fact that

    1. Blizzard just got their hands on this new engine
    2. Those companies didnt have a toxic community of haters crawling up their ass who are so impatient for the game that they would ask for unfinished models.
    3. These models need to support a wide range of computers that still goes back to those big clunkers from 05 when the game released.
    4. There are atleast 8-10 of these models getting done which is more than what blizzard does in a normalexpansion. You could say that they're working overtime to get this shit out.
    Listen, I think people are way overreacting, but you are really reaching on these. First off, models do not depend on engines, 3d modelers build and animate them outside of the engine.

    Secondly, your comment 2) makes no sense as a "community of toxic haters" should have no impact on modelers, none what-so-ever. This game has 8 million players, if a modeler on their own goes to a place like MMO Champion, they will hear a lot more trash about how the game sucks than the models. This is just something a very small percentage of people are angry about today, not yesterday not tomorrow.

    Thirdly, your three is no more relevant than your first point. Before they even started they would have had a poly count goal.

    Finally, your last point is just something you are making up. You have no clue what their work rate should be and what it is. The person you are responding to is correct, smaller studios get models out a lot faster rate that are low rez (as these new models are even with the revamp).

    Again, I don't really care if not every model is done in time, but let's not bend over backwards making excuses why they aren't done either, because Blizzard really doesn't have a valid excuse on this one.

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    I can see it in trade now. Instead of /2 LF SOMEONE WITH BLINKTRON

    It will be /2 LF SOMEONE WITH BLINKTRONK TO FIGHT MY BLINKTRONG PLZ WISP

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    With so many talented fans churning out an endless stream of high quality WoW-themed artwork, what the hell is the deal with the Blizzard TCG updated art gallery? All 10 of these new submissions are absolutely mediocre (at best)...

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Mellrod View Post
    You are an idiot. They never promised anything. Please find where it actually says blizz would have all models done at release or perish the thought.

    Blizzard not releasing everything at launch =/= Blizz never releasing them.

    An X-pac has a launch, and the rest of the expansion for content.



    Lol, FLAWLESS LOGIC. FLAWLESS.
    *sarcasm off*
    No it doesnt, it just shows us you're raging really hard over a promise that never existed.



    Criticisms that are not constructive hold no value. Take a look around you:

    "Blizzard is now full of liars and lazy fucks!"

    "Seriously, everyone is waiting for information on WoD and we have to wait for new content for a year and we get some shitty interview about level 90 boosts?"

    "Yes, no one at Blizzard could possibly think of that right away... :S. No wonder people call eachother Blizzard apologists on here."

    "Lazy fucks is the best way to describe them, this expansion has only 2 new things added to the game and that's garrisons and new character models. Everything else is removing existing features. How exactly do you justify them not even being near beta 4 days away from April while making an expansion with more or less NOTHING new? They are sitting on their hands doing nothing, no beta, no "huge info dump" that they said they will give us, they are not even half way done with the character models."

    Your argument is invalid. While there are some good arguments here and there, it's mostly ignorant people, or bigots swarming around here with destructive things to say about Blizzard that in no way helps them. Same with on the official forums. People just attacking blizzard without anything good to say need to lie down and die. They are ruining the game themselves.




    They are no more defending than you are attacking. There's nothing wrong with showing someone a positive perspective opposed from the constant negative one you folks seem to have about everything.



    Blizzard takes their time with models so they can get shit done right. Everyone knows that. Also, what sets Blizz apart is the fact that:

    1. Blizzard just got their hands on this new engine
    2. Those companies didnt have a toxic community of haters crawling up their ass who are so impatient for the game that they would rather ask for unfinished models.
    3. These models need to support a wide range of computers that still goes back to those big clunkers from 05 when the game released.
    4. There are atleast 8-10 of these models getting done which is more than what blizzard does in a normal expansion. You could say that they're practically working overtime to get this shit out.
    So hard to defend Blizzard nowadays huh? It seems like you gotta have double thoughts which interpret eveything that Blizzard said into "an intention to improve".
    Last edited by billielecter; 2014-03-28 at 05:43 AM.

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacashamanica View Post
    nop , I leave WoW 4 years ago. all should.
    You are lying, I went through your post history.

    Not only are you lying, but you're a dick
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    I think MMO-C should be renamed "HJTC-C" - Hyperbolic Jumping To Conclusions Champion.

  13. #113
    So much for "Blizzard provides quality and won't release until it's ready"

    1. They're even slower than they used to be
    2. They're promising features for expansions that don't show up (dance studio anyone?) Then the feature becomes a 'not at launch' and eventually it becomes the feature of the next expac. How stupid can the fanboys be.

    All of this is because of Activision. Kotik's a greedy guy that only cares about bottomline and not making fun games. He was even quoted as such once. So don't be surprised when he wants Blizzard to work with 50 staff promising their customers the work of 150 staff.
    Anyone at blizzard saying all is fine is just doing damage control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacashamanica View Post
    The game will be released in december and not even with all new models? WTF blizzard! you are fooling everyone then with your "new models at game release " campaing publicity! what a shame . Blizzard is now full of liars and lazy fucks!
    +1 - what a fucking liberty!!! #catherinetaitftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slummish View Post
    With so many talented fans churning out an endless stream of high quality WoW-themed artwork, what the hell is the deal with the Blizzard TCG updated art gallery? All 10 of these new submissions are absolutely mediocre (at best)...
    Their quite Shit really - mediocre is the original models/textures for the trees...

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg265 View Post
    They are so out of touch it is not even funny. Leveling up has zero impact on most people coming back.
    As a returning player I could see they are right.

    A returning player does not need to crawl through X levels and 2 expansions worth of old content that is no longer relevant.
    More so, ... the game turned into an extrema large and very confusing kind of game play for a gamer that took a break in the last 3-4 years.

    So the only thing to do is set out a complete new starting point for those players at the start of the next expansion. Everyone gets to start the adventure in WoD at lvl 90.

    Best thing to do.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    As a returning player I could see they are right.

    A returning player does not need to crawl through X levels and 2 expansions worth of old content that is no longer relevant.
    More so, ... the game turned into an extrema large and very confusing kind of game play for a gamer that took a break in the last 3-4 years.

    So the only thing to do is set out a complete new starting point for those players at the start of the next expansion. Everyone gets to start the adventure in WoD at lvl 90.

    Best thing to do.
    You got out of the pit man, don't fall back into it!!!

  17. #117
    "The biggest thing stopping players from coming back is leveling."

    that is plain bullshit ! leveling was the funniest thing to do . always felt suddenly empty once reaching max. lvl - cant be the only one !

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by belli13 View Post
    "The biggest thing stopping players from coming back is leveling."

    that is plain bullshit ! leveling was the funniest thing to do . always felt suddenly empty once reaching max. lvl - cant be the only one !
    The biggest problem on this site seems to be that individuals take their own experiences as the collective experiences of hundreds of thousands or even millions of people, and if anything that is outside those experiences is bullshit.

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