6.0 Warrior changes discussion thread

[Deleted]

Please give me a physical demonstration of how to run on a treadmail (mill? :P) upside down.

[Firebert]

Please give me a physical demonstration of how to run on a treadmail (mill? :P) upside down.

Waist lock with the 'mill and yourself inverted, with the 'mill bolted to the ceiling. It'd hurt, but it'd be doable.

OT: I've not tried the "rotation" yet but it should just be a left-to-right whack-a-mole if the buttons are in the right order.

[Celarent]

I wouldn't say Fury's hard; it's just convoluted and frustrates expectations based on the live spec and game concepts on general.

[Deleted]

At the end of the day, they wanted the spec to be furious.


I'm furious...

[Deleted]

How very Meta

[Deleted]

What's your opinion on Gladiator's Stance in PVE/ PVP, guys? Seeing that both, Arms and Fury are close to being garbage, I might try this one out.

[Deleted]

The rotation is nice and smooth. Dunno how it's turned for competitive damage.

[Doez]

Arms feels so weird on beta for me. Slow and clunky, and I feel the natural urge to mash my face into the keyboard in hopes that my cooldowns magically disappear to do something. I would think that it will all be fine once the expansion goes live, but it has been painful so far.

[Deleted]

Glad is tuned to be competitive without big CDs as far as I'm aware, so you'll be fine on fights that require a steady flow of damage but if there's moments where you need to burst (spine hc for example.. yuk) then you'll probably be better off not playing Glad.

[Crisius]

Glad is tuned to be competitive without big CDs as far as I'm aware, so you'll be fine on fights that require a steady flow of damage

Until fights get down to 3 minutes again and any class with primarily sustained damage are left in the dirt behind the stackable CD classes. At least they made it partially better with Warlords.

[Smag]

I guess, you can always spec to Avatar for that bursty CD feeling.

[Deleted]

I guess, you can always spec to Avatar for that bursty CD feeling.

Bloodbath > Avatar by a noticeable margin I believe, it's like a slightly shittier Death Wish and in my eyes will remain that way. Literally any time I see someone using Avatar I automatically assume they're bad, at least in either PvP or as a DPS.

[Diograo]

Bloodbath + Ravager + T60, coupled with trinkets/pots, is a good burst to Glad, imo

[Deleted]

What I mean by burst is it doesn't have Reck... Then again Reck is pretty fucking pathetic compared to something like Dark Soul (which is even better than Reck is now lolol)

[87Octane]

Bloodbath > Avatar by a noticeable margin I believe, it's like a slightly shittier Death Wish and in my eyes will remain that way. Literally any time I see someone using Avatar I automatically assume they're bad, at least in either PvP or as a DPS.

Isn't Avatar better than Bloodbath for the duration that it is active? (ignoring CD)

[Crisius]

Isn't Avatar better than Bloodbath for the duration that it is active? (ignoring CD)

A single use of avatar beats a single use of bloodbath. Two uses of bloodbath beats a single use of avatar, but by a bigger margin. By the third use of bloodbath and second use of avatar, they're roughly equal again, with bloodbath winning out slightly.

[87Octane]

A single use of avatar beats a single use of bloodbath. Two uses of bloodbath beats a single use of avatar, but by a bigger margin. By the third use of bloodbath and second use of avatar, they're roughly equal again, with bloodbath winning out slightly.

That's what I figured. I just don't get why people can't look beyond the numbers sometimes with regards to Avatar. A higher-burst-long-CD talent is rightfully tuned lower than a slow'n steady. The ability to simply put out more pressure even once can be more valuable than the whole picture in pvp or pve. In pvp yeah it results in less "attempts" to burst someone down with Avatar - sure. But how many attempts do you need to bring someone's health down to zero? You really only need one.

Seems no different really than winning the lottery and taking a smaller payoff in lieu of a settlement. If it's all you need - it's more valuable to you.

[Kirbynator]

avatar could be interesting if we can fit in a 24 sec coll smash with a big raid debuff on the boss or something...

[Crisius]

avatar could be interesting if we can fit in a 24 sec coll smash with a big raid debuff on the boss or something...

CS in general feels less interesting now that we don't have a damage source to put into it beside our on-global abilities. I do agree with you though, avatar will probably have its uses even in its current state. Still wouldn't mind it being buffed, I've grown tired of bloodbath.

[Diograo]

also they could rework Avatar animation, its so "meh"