[MAJOR SPOILERS] Nethergarde and Dreadmaul in WoD

[Skytotem]

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Welp.


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[Viradiance]

Spoiler title.

Dreadmaul may have been conquered, rather than changing allegiances.

Edit: At this rate, by 2020 the Alliance will have no towns left.

[Venziir]

Dreadmaul doesn't side with the Horde as such, note how the Horde gets a camp of tents just like the Alliance. The flags outside the Hold symbolize that the Iron Horde have conquered it, just like the ones in Nethegarde...

[Deleted]

Spoiler title.

Dreadmaul may have been conquered, rather than changing allegiances.

Edit: At this rate, by 2020 the Alliance will have no towns left.

You say "spoiler title" and what about your "Location"?

[Viradiance]

You say "spoiler title" and what about your "Location"?

Heh. Fair enough. Surprised anyone finally noticed.

[Arrashi]

Orgrimmar and Dreadmaul are proof how solid horde architecture is. So hostile forces attacked it ? Bitch please, not even the dent.
Meanwhile, weak pathetic alliance get they building crushed by anything. Seriously guys pay more to your masons, why dont ya ?

[The Madgod]

Orgrimmar and Dreadmaul are proof how solid horde architecture is. So hostile forces attacked it ? Bitch please, not even the dent.
Meanwhile, weak pathetic alliance get they building crushed by anything. Seriously guys pay more to your masons, why dont ya ?

Be fair, it's likely that Nethergarde was undermanned considering the AvH war was rather a ways away from there and there haven't been any real notable threads coming from the Dark Portal for half a decade.

Also it's what, 20 years old now? It's getting on in years.

[Venziir]

Orgrimmar and Dreadmaul are proof how solid horde architecture is. So hostile forces attacked it ? Bitch please, not even the dent.
Meanwhile, weak pathetic alliance get they building crushed by anything. Seriously guys pay more to your masons, why dont ya ?

Pretty sure paying masons is against the Alliance Doctrine, unless we are talking golden statues of your king that is.

[Arrashi]

Be fair, it's likely that Nethergarde was undermanned considering the AvH war was rather a ways away from there and there haven't been any real notable threads coming from the Dark Portal for half a decade.

Also it's what, 20 years old now? It's getting on in years.

Undermanned or not, we can assume that so was dreadmaul (given that it was orc only garrison send there by garrosh) and it isnt pile of rubble. Horde simply knows how to build for war for big men. Look at orgrimmar, if nazgrim (god bless his soul in heavens) wasnt polite enough to let us in, we would camp at the gate forever.
Alliance really need to rethink they construction patterns. We wouldnt want alliance players to rebuild half of they garrison building 2-3 times a month.

[Combatbutler]

Be fair, it's likely that Nethergarde was undermanned considering the AvH war was rather a ways away from there and there haven't been any real notable threads coming from the Dark Portal for half a decade.

Also it's what, 20 years old now? It's getting on in years.

That did not stop honor hold to stand for 20 years on the other side of the portal though, not to mention it survived the explosion of Draenor. But then again Nethergarde barely repelled a single orc clan back in the day, even though it was fully operational. So it had simply no chance to survive and Iron Horde invasion. I wonder how far they will get lorewise until the Alliance pushes them back to the portal.

[Venziir]

Undermanned or not, we can assume that so was dreadmaul (given that it was orc only garrison send there by garrosh) and it isnt pile of rubble. Horde simply knows how to build for war for big men. Look at orgrimmar, if nazgrim (god bless his soul in heavens) wasnt polite enough to let us in, we would camp at the gate forever.
Alliance really need to rethink they construction patterns. We wouldnt want alliance players to rebuild half of they garrison building 2-3 times a month.

It's more likely that Dreadmaul joined the Iron Horde, since Okrilla was pro-Garrosh and that she's a rare mob in WoD called War-Matron Okrilla.

[The Madgod]

Undermanned or not, we can assume that so was dreadmaul (given that it was orc only garrison send there by garrosh) and it isnt pile of rubble. Horde simply knows how to build for war for big men. Look at orgrimmar, if nazgrim (god bless his soul in heavens) wasnt polite enough to let us in, we would camp at the gate forever.
Alliance really need to rethink they construction patterns. We wouldnt want alliance players to rebuild half of they garrison building 2-3 times a month.

There's some evidence that Dreadmaul actually defected. Okrilla is called War Matron Orkilla and is a rare mob, so it's possible that either they were attacked and they surrendered before maximum damage could be done or the damage there is (if any) due to riots or a coup... but looking at that base, there's only fire on the forge building, so there might not even be any damage at all.

That did not stop honor hold to stand for 20 years on the other side of the portal though, not to mention it survived the explosion of Draenor. But then again Nethergarde barely repelled a single orc clan back in the day, even though it was fully operational. So it had simply no chance to survive and Iron Horde invasion. I wonder how far they will get lorewise until the Alliance pushes them back to the portal.

The second bit there was a stupid one-liner. If you can't build a fortress that lasts you 20 years before it starts becoming shit, you've been wasting your gold on some con-artists rather than actual masons.

But yeah, this really isn't unexpected.

I THINK that they get up to Blackrock mountain and have taken over the Swamp of Sorrows.

[Frozenbeef]

I wonder how far they will get lorewise until the Alliance pushes them back to the portal.

Judging by the amount of alliance citys that keep getting destroyed i would say the iron horde made a bee line between ally citys while avoiding all horde and eventually ending up in darnassus :S

[Arrashi]

Dammit where did you guys found that she is rare mob ? Dont tell me you read that entire list for possible references.

But whats weird is, given that dreadmaul was separated from main horde forces, why didnt alliance took it before ? Having it last long enough, to rejoin with attacking iron horde seems weird. That being said it seems you are right.

[Venziir]

Dammit where did you guys found that she is rare mob ? Dont tell me you read that entire list for possible references.

But whats weird is, given that dreadmaul was separated from main horde forces, why didnt alliance took it before ? Having it last long enough, to rejoin with attacking iron horde seems weird. That being said it seems you are right.

Okay then, I won't :P

[Combatbutler]

I THINK that they get up to Blackrock mountain and have taken over the Swamp of Sorrows.

That would be quite a distance and makes them a threat to several major Alliance cities. I just imagine Varian having a talk with Jaina and then suddenly, a scout bursts through the door, yelling the Orcs are attacking and Jaina just says, I told you so. ;P

[Arrashi]

That would be quite a distance and makes them a threat to several major Alliance cities. I just imagine Varian having a talk with Jaina and then suddenly, a scout bursts through the door, yelling the Orcs are attacking and Jaina just says, I told you so. ;P

Alliance confirmed to be superpower in WoD....for about 5 minutes of 6.0
Blizzard confirmed to be a massive troll.

[Combatbutler]

Alliance confirmed to be superpower in WoD....for about 5 minutes of 6.0
Blizzard confirmed to be a massive troll.

considering what they will get in this expansion, blizzard did not lie. A healthy Draenei nation will join them, sure they will have losses, but ultimately a huge chunk of Draenor will fall into their hands.

While orcs are blown to bits again.

[Zoaric]

I THINK that they get up to Blackrock mountain and have taken over the Swamp of Sorrows.

Me too. Which if, true, is freakin' awesome! XD

[Arrashi]

considering what they will get in this expansion, blizzard did not lie. A healthy Draenei nation will join them, sure they will have losses, but ultimately a huge chunk of Draenor will fall into their hands.

While orcs are blown to bits again.

Well alliance is gonna loose huge amount of troops to push iron horde back, since its unlikely horde will commit anything of any worth.
And for draenei being such benefit - its debatable. Yrel turned to be mega badass so far, maraad is so edgy i can bet his color scheme will be black and red, and velen (sup) dies. And then you have lotsa of damsels in distress.