[Build] Need a new PC, go nuts

[Deleted]

I need a machine thats both good for gaming and doing things like video editing, leaning more towards the gaming side though, as the video editing is like a secondary hobby. Ideally, for reference, i want to run Skyrim with 500 graphical performance mods smoothly, i want WoW to run on Ultra, possibly Wildstar, etc. I dont expect something like Watch Dogs to run smoothly on ultra, not with the budget i'm carrying. Max 1200 euro's.

The rest, well basicly u can go nuts with it. I dont expect to need more HD room than 1 TB, so if some can be saved on that, thats great. I need a machine that will atleast sustain for another 4-5 years. I have no clue bout setting cooler limits, clocking, etc. So i just need it to start and work without me fucking things up trying to change settings and stuff.

So in short:

1 TB max HD
Budget = 1200 (if u can shave some off the price thats ok too :P)
Gaming, bit of video editing, ordinary use
Go nuts.

Thnx in advance!

edit

Learning all kinds of stuff here

[Cyrops]

Look again at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUghCx9iso

Anyway, you didn't specify location? Just Euros :P

Specify location or a shop you will buy it from, for now I used German prices:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€46.95 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€56.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€61.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (€197.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case (€42.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€57.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €629.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 14:44 CEST+0200)

Also, since you don't want to mess with OC, I kept it simple. Don't be fooled, it will run shit on ultra

[Bolson13]

I know you are Dutch. Check for parts prices:

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/



And if you really want a trustworthy company to build your PC, you could always go to Paradigit but yeah, they will charge you an arm and a leg. You don't have a friend or so who can oversee while you build (to give you some faith because it really isn't that difficult). Then next time you can do it yourself.

[Deleted]

I know you are Dutch. Check for parts prices:

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/



And if you really want a trustworthy company to build your PC, you could always go to Paradigit but yeah, they will charge you an arm and a leg. You don't have a friend or so who can oversee while you build (to give you some faith because it really isn't that difficult). Then next time you can do it yourself.

Well my sister did build her own (she studied IT for like 4 months, and one of the first things she learned was how to assemble and dissemble a computer) but you cant really call her a reliable source :P

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Look again at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUghCx9iso

Anyway, you didn't specify location? Just Euros :P

Specify location or a shop you will buy it from, for now I used German prices:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€46.95 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€56.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€61.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (€197.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case (€42.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€57.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €629.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 14:44 CEST+0200)

Also, since you don't want to mess with OC, I kept it simple. Don't be fooled, it will run shit on ultra

Ill check the video out.
My dxdiag said dutch which kinda gave it away haha. Im from Holland. Doubt the prices differentiate much with germany since its so close together.
Maybe ill check a bit on clocking and stuff, since i really want (atleast) WoW to be able to run on ultra :P Isnt Nvidia better for GPU? Like this 1. http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/33948...60-gaming.html

That case btw, is rated 1 out of 5 (rest all have 4.5 out of 5). Does that matter?
This 1 looks bitching though for 10 bucks more. http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1383065377.png

CPU:[/b] Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)

An i5 is around the same price. Or is it because dual core actually an i6?

[thunterman]

Honestly, you need not worry about building it yourself. If I can do it anyone can, I'm not just saying that either, I'm clumsey. While building my current PC, I actually dropped my MoBo into the case, I put the ram in the wrong way round and tried to force it in, before realising it only fits one way, what else? Oh yea, I forgot to push the tool-less clips for the hardrives so my HDD's where basically just sitting in a slot, the second I powered on they fell out, to the bottom of my case (I'd say a 1 foot drop) ontop eachother.

I did kinda panic after all this to be honest. I went back, sorted it all and tightened some screws e.t.c all works fine. This stuff seems to be allot more durable than it once was, the only thing I fear now is static, and you can grab a wristband for that for next to nothing.

[Deleted]

Ok i gave it a try at partpicker. How about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€208.26 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€97.98 @ Hardwareversand)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (€50.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€136.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card (€254.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€76.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan (€14.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Total: €893.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 17:47 CEST+0200)

In this casing.
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/35434...ix-shadow.html

[Deleted]

i left the case out since it wasn't in the pcpartpicker list to pick.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€194.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Be Quiet Dark Rock Advanced C1 50.5 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€49.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€123.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€68.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (€293.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€76.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €927.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 18:12 CEST+0200)

Your budget leaves you room to get an 256GB ssd too if you want.

[Deleted]

i left the case out since it wasn't in the pcpartpicker list to pick.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€194.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Be Quiet Dark Rock Advanced C1 50.5 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€49.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€123.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€68.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (€293.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€76.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €927.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 18:12 CEST+0200)

Your budget leaves you room to get an 256GB ssd too if you want.

SSD has no moving parts so it boots faster right?
How does that 2GB videocard come out more expensive than the 4gb one?

[Deleted]

Yes ssd is alot faster than an hdd, you use it primarily for os and the hdd for storage. Obviously the bigger ssd you buy the more room you got for additional games/software.
The gtx770 is faster than the gtx760 as in the next faster @ nvidia's 700series.

[Deleted]

Yes ssd is alot faster than an hdd, you use it primarily for os and the hdd for storage. Obviously the bigger ssd you buy the more room you got for additional games/software.
The gtx770 is faster than the gtx760 as in the next faster @ nvidia's 700series.

But does that extra speed make up for the loss of 2GB? Or does that card not have 4GB GPU and is it just some weird abbreviation?

What i get from the internet is that SSD cards are usually used for quick booting, but if thats the only thing i dont rlly think its worth that much. I often turn on the computer, then do some other shit, and then get back when its booted (with my current system it takes 20 seconds or so, i can wait 20 seconds :P). Are there any other benefits to it? Since the extra storage space isnt rlly needed either (im going with 1TB but 500GB would be enough, i still have 150gb out of 250gb free on this PC)

[Deleted]

It depends really. Speed has nothing to do with more gpu ram aka vram. Its like comparing your proccessor with how much ram your system has. So if you dont use more than 2GB vram while playing games then the extra 2gb is useless. But you can definately see the better graphics from the more powerful gpu (except wow).
I guess you could probably use that extra 2GB if you do some really heavy video editing/renderering or if you use multiple/high res monitors.

[rulee]

If you put your games on an SSD, they will load faster. For WoW, the loading screens will be quicker. Everything is just quicker on an SSD. It's not needed, but nice to have. Once you get one, you'll never put an OS on anything else again.

[Deleted]

It depends really. Speed has nothing to do with more gpu ram aka vram. Its like comparing your proccessor with how much ram your system has. So if you dont use more than 2GB vram while playing games then the extra 2gb is useless. But you can definately see the better graphics from the more powerful gpu (except wow).
I guess you could probably use that extra 2GB if you do some really heavy video editing/renderering or if you use multiple/high res monitors.

Hm hm. So basicly that RAM abbreviation is max gpu RAM, which doesnt nessicarily means a game will use all of it. And for future gaming, im assuming im better off with the 4gb since u can "max it out" more when its needed? In the example of minimum requirements being 3k GPU Ram, the one u mentioned wont fit and this 1 will, regardless of the 2GB giving things such as better shadows quality and more FPS?

If you put your games on an SSD, they will load faster. For WoW, the loading screens will be quicker. Everything is just quicker on an SSD. It's not needed, but nice to have. Once you get one, you'll never put an OS on anything else again.

Haha ill take it into consideration then (got to hate porting and then waiting 5 seconds only to see ur allrdy dead by camping allaince scum)

[Deleted]

Yes well it depends on the games you are/will playing. BF4 got like 512mb vram min req and recommended 3GB. So...it all depends on your pocket really. If you can do what i did, i ordered the gtx770 4gb (still waiting delivery)

[Deleted]

Yes well it depends on the games you are/will playing. BF4 got like 512mb vram min req and recommended 3GB. So...it all depends on your pocket really. If you can do what i did, i ordered the gtx770 4gb (still waiting delivery)

Yeah 350 might be a bit much for my pocket compared to the kind of games i play.

How much difference is there between an i5 and i3 in this setting > WoW tabbed out, another game tabbed in, youtube playing in the background, photoshop is open aswell. Since my current computer can handle even that, and if i dont need an i5, i dont need extra coolers since they dont overclock right?

So then you could go with something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€106.90 @ Pixmania DE)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€56.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€61.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card (€254.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (€69.18 @ Hardwareversand)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€76.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €793.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 19:45 CEST+0200)

I think?

[Wilderness]

I'll add that you really shouldn't worry about doing it yourself. I just built my first computer in 15+ years the other week after getting advice here as well. I followed the basic "how to build a computer in 9.5 steps" or whatever is on this forum as it gave me an idea of what I should do and the order for it, and then I supplemented that with youtube searchs for my specific components when I wanted to see how it really goes together.

It took me maybe 3 hours tops, and that was with a lot of time poring through manuals and watching videos and getting really confused or misunderstanding things a couple of times before I realized I was being an idiot and what I needed to do was simple. Now that I've done it once and have a little familiarity with the basics of how things should go together I could do it again in under an hour easily.

Its kind of scary doing it yourself without any previous experience, especially as you're handling small electronics pieces that each cost a couple hundred bucks, but once you've done it you realize that they have made it very simple to do, it really is just plug and play, you just have to spend a little time learning where different things go.

[Deleted]

Its kind of scary doing it yourself without any previous experience, especially as you're handling small electronics pieces that each cost a couple hundred bucks, but once you've done it you realize that they have made it very simple to do, it really is just plug and play, you just have to spend a little time learning where different things go.

Yeah, especially after all the things on the forums here bout statics, people that failed setting up and instantly overheating stuff, etc.
And im not the most delicate person around.

[Deleted]

I would just start here

http://tweakers.net/reviews/3443/4/d...mesysteem.html

If you want to save some money, you can start by lowering the 290 to a 280x or 770.

[Deleted]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€52.08 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€61.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.98 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (€293.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (€88.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€56.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (€20.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €798.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-19 13:31 CEST+0200)

Will this build last me another 3-4 years? And will it be able to run things like WoW, Wildstar, GTA, skyrim on high/ultra?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€193.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€131.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€91.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gainward GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (€289.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€52.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€77.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €897.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-19 13:51 CEST+0200)

For 90 euro more, you get an i5 instead of an i3. The Asus one-button overclocking thing is better at it than a newbie, and actually emulates the real overclocking process quite well, so that'll last you a bit. Don't bother with 4GB GPUs unless you get a GTX 780(ti) or R9 290(X), but they cost twice as much again - 4GB 760s and 770s don't have the memory bandwidth to use 4GB of memory.

I'd just get a decently sized SSD to start with, and get a hard-drive later for mass storage. Or just get a western digital caviar blue/black 1TB now and be done with it (~70 euro)

The motherboard will allow you to get a second GPU later on if you need more performance but don't want to replace the whole rig and the power supply has enough grunt to power a second GTX 770.

It'll run pretty much anything you throw at it on ultra settings.