What defines "art"?

[Cernunnos]

It better have been the most romantic choreographed clean anal sex scene ever if you want me to interpret it as "art".

As long as he films it, technically it's art.
That's the only difference between prostitution and pornography. But that is an argument for another thread.

[Themius]

It better have been the most romantic choreographed clean anal sex scene ever if you want me to interpret it as "art".

Not that, this piece, the piece in the OP.

[Tastyfish]

It better have been the most romantic choreographed clean anal sex scene ever if you want me to interpret it as "art".

It wasn't.
It was a dirty, sophmoric, painful event with people gawking at the act.

I think it represented the pressure and fixations we have, and the gross reality of them, pretty well tho.

[IIamaKing]

The individual viewing/listening/experiencing it.

[spinner981]

Art these days is something that is either stupid to the most profound people, or profound to the most stupid people.

[Themius]

Art these days is either something stupid to the most profound people, or profound to the most stupid people.

Art is open to interpretation, I would like to see some actual interpretations of the performance art piece.

[Themius]

It symbolizes male oppression of women. The eggs are like symbolic for how women are just baby factories.

Are you serious? I can't tell if you're joking or expressing a genuine thought, if the latter, this is the part I like about art. The interpretations and how numerous they are, how one can vary from the other, as my interpretation isn't like this.

[spinner981]

Art is open to interpretation, I would like to see some actual interpretations of the performance art piece.

If its open to interpretation, then anything and everything is art. All you have to do is call it such. Difficult to establish a line, but I can tell the two extremes from another:

The Mona Lisa is art

Some crazy chick birthing paint filled eggs onto a canvas in public is just insane and ridiculous.

[Themius]

If its open to interpretation, then anything and everything is art. All you have to do is call it such. Difficult to establish a line, but I can tell the two extremes from another:

The Mona Lisa is art

Some crazy chick birthing paint filled eggs onto a canvas in public is just insane and ridiculous.

Why is she birthing eggs and panting that way? And why does has it yet to been said that she essentially painted a diagram of a vagina.

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I'm totally kidding. I don't even like inductive logic, let alone something as baseless and ridiculous as art interpretation.

One can't enjoy much if one isn't open to interpret it.

[Deleted]

This probably won't end well, but.. degenerate art. That's what it is.

Together with 99% of "musicians", film producers and other "artists".

Why do we call them artists? So they can feel good about the shit they do. Everyone is an artist!
We're so progressive.

[spinner981]

Why is she birthing eggs and panting that way? And why does has it yet to been said that she essentially painted a diagram of a vagina.

Why? Probably because she thinks she is being open-minded, or she wants attention, or maybe she is just crazy. Something tells me that any type of diagram illustrated via paint bombs is going to pretty much not be an actual diagram; or it would be immensely abstract to the point where it could be translated to be an image of virtually anything.

[Themius]

Your Rorschach results are in. You have vagina on the brain.




There's either no correct answer or the correct answer isn't knowable. Discussion is pointless. You may as well argue about why blue is a better favorite color than red.

That's the thing, you don't argue. You state what you feel, what your interpretation is, you don't argue to say your interpretation is right your interpretation is only one of thousands that could exist depending on the viewer, that is the beauty of it. There is no correct answer, the answer isn't knowable, not even to the artist often enough, and this type of mystery, this type of feel each person can get, the variety of emotions, and thoughts, is what is so beautiful about much of art.

[spinner981]

There's either no correct answer or the correct answer isn't knowable. Discussion is pointless. You may as well argue about why blue is a better favorite color than red.

But that question actually has psychological value.

[Themius]

Why? Probably because she thinks she is being open-minded, or she wants attention, or maybe she is just crazy. Something tells me that any type of diagram illustrated via paint bombs is going to pretty much not be an actual diagram; or it would be immensely abstract to the point where it could be translated to be an image of virtually anything.

The central focus of the painting is starkly similar to.

[Wells]

Art requires context. Often the context is political in nature. I mean, rarely do you see a new piece of art that represents right-wing views praised.

Let's take a leftist's definition of right-wing. To them, right wing can represent order and control over freedom. Well, that's certainly not always a bad thing. But when was the last time you saw a new piece of art that was warm to order and control over freedom, and saw it get praised? I can't think of any. The art I always see get praised is left wing defiance against presumed right wing order and control.

Let's throw a decidedly right wing topic out there. Wall Street. The stock market. What new works of art since 2000 has come out that celebrates Wall Street and has been praised and won awards? Any? Can you name one? How about low taxes? What new works of art since 2000 has come out that celebrates low taxes and has been praised and won awards? Any? What new works of art since 2000 has come out that celebrates the Catholic church and has been praised and won awards? Any?

I can't think of anything.

So, art appears to require context. That context is often political, and it seems to be strictly (or quite nearly strictly) left wing.

God and you people wonder why you lose the culture wars so badly.

[spinner981]

That's the thing, you don't argue. You state what you feel, what your interpretation is, you don't argue to say your interpretation is right your interpretation is only one of thousands that could exist depending on the viewer, that is the beauty of it. There is no correct answer, the answer isn't knowable, not even to the artist often enough, and this type of mystery, this type of feel each person can get, the variety of emotions, and thoughts, is what is so beautiful about much of art.

I rather try to discover the actual meanings painted into real art, than to try and force my brain to see things that aren't really there in unguided messes of paint.

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The central focus of the painting is starkly similar to.

Whatever you say.

[vindicatorx]

That to me is not art. Forcing a paint filled egg out of your vagina onto a canvas is not art.

[Themius]

I rather try to discover the actual meanings painted into real art, than to try and force my brain to see things that aren't really there in unguided messes of paint.

Real art? What is real art? Is the panting of a street in boston at twilight "real art?"

Boston Common at Twilight, one of my favorite paintings by my favorite water colorist, Childe Hassam:




What about this piece, is it not art because you do not get it? Because the meaning isn't clear to you? Or is it simply art you don't get because you don't care for it? I am voting the latter.



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That to me is not art. Forcing a paint filled egg out of your vagina onto a canvas is not art.

The art is in the performance, in the "why" she did it this why. Why did she give life to art by using the traditional method that we give life? This art was born, literally it was birth out of her and fell onto the world creating a unique piece.

[spinner981]

God and you people wonder why you lose the culture wars so badly.

Culture wars? Sorry but I don't think that 'we people' would want to be fighting a war to determine whether birthing paint filled eggs should be classified as artistic or not. You can have culture and all the mess that comes with it. We will keep actual culture, rather than your sheer open-mindedness for the sake of open-mindedness (aka: brain falling out of skull).

[Wells]

Culture wars? Sorry but I don't think that 'we people' would want to be fighting a war to determine whether birthing paint filled eggs should be classified as artistic or not. You can have culture and all the mess that comes with it. We will keep actual culture, rather than your sheer open-mindedness for the sake of open-mindedness (aka: brain falling out of skull).

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.