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  1. #1
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    Thumbs down Garrosh heirloom drops are being removed in 6.0

    I honestly didn't see it coming and i think this is outrageous they can't even announce something like this. What's the problem if people do it in 6.2 at level 100? they already done the content, this is one of of those designs i just cannot approve or understand.

    i was hoping to sub back at 6.0 to join my guild with the new raid modes like normal-flexible new way but apparently blizzard doesn't want me to do that.

    Another poor philosophy coming from blizzard, i just can't understand this is still blizzard entertainment, they used to have me as their major fanboy that would defend everything they did, i'm losing motivation to do so lately...
    sadface



    edit: it was a tweet from watcher dev but i cannot link it due to forum restrictions, i jsut joined

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    Whoa I thought they would keep them to incentivise rerunning old content in a pokemon style GOTTA CATCH EM ALL. Oh well I suppose.

  3. #3
    If true I have to say I agree that's a pretty lousy decision. I too was planning on resubbing for 6.0 to raid Flexi-Normals and while the heirloom isn't that big a deal, it still seems like a pretty silly choice unless they are available elsewhere.

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    Oh well, I guess I'll never get a weapon since my guild sucks and can't clear shit. Sigh. Hope they start doing some % nerfs before 6.0 then so at least I have a small chance to get something.

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    I don't understand what the incentive is to play SoO then, current gear will be a joke once WoD hits anyway, the heirlooms are the only thing that will remain viable.

  6. #6
    To be clear the tweet says "The Garrosh heirlooms are specifically a reward for doing Flex+ while relevant. They won't be available once Draenor unlocks." This means they will still be in at 6.0.

    Here is a link to the tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/WatcherDe...61202357592065 and
    here is one to a battle.net forum discussion about it: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12675227507

    To clarify, they will be dropping the main 6.0 patch before WoD. They have done that for every expansion so far and it doesn't seem like it will change. So you can still get them come 6.0 but not once WoD drops. That's what I understood the tweet to mean.
    Last edited by Zztank; 2014-04-27 at 03:10 PM.

  7. #7
    Just seen this on Twitter, and I am a little disappointed. I was sure they'd leave them in as an incentive, but when an incentive becomes a requirement (Having Heirlooms is generally speaking, quite the advantage) then it becomes a grey area to keep them in.

    Source: https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statu...61202357592065

  8. #8
    What this does do is present an opportunity for tier 17 to have heirlooms drop without there being far too many heirlooms in the game.

    Maybe there will be new heirlooms each tier, with them being based around the theme of that tier. That would be pretty cool.

    If they're just gone and not replaced then that's a bit pants.

  9. #9
    Tweet makes perfect sense. They're a reward for clearing the content while relevant. In all likelikess, like we've seen with every pre-expansion patch in the past, all the system wide changes will completely trivialize the raid and it will be far from relevant.

    Makes sense to me that you wouldn't get the rewards for clearing effectively nerfed content.

    But I guess we can overreact like irrational children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zztank View Post
    To be clear the tweet says "The Garrosh heirlooms are specifically a reward for doing Flex+ while relevant. They won't be available once Draenor unlocks." This means they will still be in at 6.0.

    Here is a link to the tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/WatcherDe...61202357592065 and
    here is one to a battle.net forum discussion about it: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12675227507

    To clarify, they will be dropping the main 6.0 patch before WoD. They have done that for every expansion so far and it doesn't seem like it will change. So you can still get them come 6.0 but not once WoD drops. That's what I understood the tweet to mean.
    The pre-patch is where they take all the stuff from us, the actual patch where we're allowed to lvl is just a simple unlock in a way.

    Pre-patch removed naxx in wotlk, pre-patch brought huge changes in cata, leveling patch was literally blizz hitting a switch at midnight, allowing us to level. etc etc etc

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooGaming View Post
    Just seen this on Twitter, and I am a little disappointed. I was sure they'd leave them in as an incentive, but when an incentive becomes a requirement (Having Heirlooms is generally speaking, quite the advantage) then it becomes a grey area to keep them in.

    Source: https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statu...61202357592065
    Advantage to what? Leveling without server first feats in the game anymore? C'mon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistahwilshire View Post
    Tweet makes perfect sense. They're a reward for clearing the content while relevant. In all likelikess, like we've seen with every pre-expansion patch in the past, all the system wide changes will completely trivialize the raid and it will be far from relevant.

    Makes sense to me that you wouldn't get the rewards for clearing effectively nerfed content.

    But I guess we can overreact like irrational children.
    It's okay then to keep the mounts but not the heirloom?? And heirlooms shouldn't have been there in the first place

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    Terrible decision, I guess I'll have to work my ass off to go do flex :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umchilli View Post
    The pre-patch is where they take all the stuff from us, the actual patch where we're allowed to lvl is just a simple unlock in a way.

    Pre-patch removed naxx in wotlk, pre-patch brought huge changes in cata, leveling patch was literally blizz hitting a switch at midnight, allowing us to level. etc etc etc
    Yes, but it says in WoD not 6.0, there is a difference between the two. WotLK didn't come out till after 3.0 had already been out. There is nothing to stop them from putting heirlooms on the list of things to be affected at midnight.

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Umchilli View Post
    It's okay then to keep the mounts but not the heirloom?? And heirlooms shouldn't have been there in the first place
    And just who the hell are you to decide that?

    Mounts = reward for killing raid boss.
    Heirlooms = reward for killing raid boss while relevant.

    It's incredibly simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zztank View Post
    Yes, but it says in WoD not 6.0, there is a difference between the two. WotLK didn't come out till after 3.0 had already been out. There is nothing to stop them from putting heirlooms on the list of things to be affected at midnight.
    That's stupid, blizzard would never do that, items get added and removed in major patches.

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    Hmm I already have the staff for my casters, but I still need that bow for my hunter. Surely I'll get it...surely.

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by mistahwilshire View Post
    Advantage to what? Leveling without server first feats in the game anymore? C'mon.
    They still make the process faster, and thusly that's an advantage. It doesn't mean it's an advantage over others, but it's a huge benefit to have, and keeping them in might create a system where players feel forced to run Siege of Orgrimmar (Heroic, mind you, for the best ones) to have a chance.

    Is that a culture they want to create, feeling compelled to run older instances on a weekly basis for Heirlooms? I doubt it.

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    Luckily I have a normal version for my main ... still need one for my primary alt (probs just flex version unless I get lucky and get a 2h Str one on my Lock ... or two 1h Str ones haha)
    I am the one who knocks ... because I need your permission to enter.

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooGaming View Post
    They still make the process faster, and thusly that's an advantage. It doesn't mean it's an advantage over others, but it's a huge benefit to have, and keeping them in might create a system where players feel forced to run Siege of Orgrimmar (Heroic, mind you, for the best ones) to have a chance.

    Is that a culture they want to create, feeling compelled to run older instances on a weekly basis for Heirlooms? I doubt it.
    I think we're actually on the same side of this issue here. I'm completely on board with them being removed, because it's a reward that should be earned. Any little way you want to consider it an advantage, it was earned, which is completely fine in my book. People that wait until the raid is trivial in 6.0 shouldn't reap the reward.

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