Teacher failed me by .18%

[vuulu]

I didn't even think it was possible to be honest I got 70% on my presentation and 18% on my written report I got such a low mark on the written report because 3 out 5 of my team members dropped the class and the 4th one didnt hand in his work, I know tough shit but with only hours to go I did as much as I can alone. My grade atm is 49.82% I'm shock i left several emails and voice mails about it, but is it possible for him to give me that mark and make me redo the class due to 90% of my team dropping/not doing the class by only .18%.

P.S the final project was worth 20%(10% written and 10% for presentation)

[gooftastic]

Wait, in Canada 50% is a passing grade?

[CR77]

50% is passing?

[Dendrek]

Isn't 50% still a failing grade? In fact, isn't anything below 60% failing? Even if you had gotten 100% on the written report, wouldn't that put you at about 57-58%? Still failing by most measures I believe.

[Lolvanish]

Sucks, but all you are making is excuses. Could he have given you that little bit of points for you to pass? Sure. Could you have tried harder earlier in the class so you didn't get in that position anyways? Absolutely.

[vuulu]

Yea it is 50% to pass the class to pass the program you have to get a average of 60% mine is 74% this is my lowest class by far.

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Too be honest i cant control 4 of my members not doing any work i had to do all their work while doing my other 5 classes.

[gooftastic]

Yea it is 50% to pass the class to pass the program you have to get a average of 60% mine is 74% this is my lowest class by far.

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Too be honest i cant control 4 of my members not doing any work i had to do all their work while doing my other 5 classes.

Damn. I thought I was getting off easy when I went from a 65% failing school to a 60% one.

[Jordaen]

He didn't give you an F, you earned an F. Once you realize that it's YOUR grade, not your teacher's, your school life will be less complicated. You should have gone to the teacher earlier in the semester about your team mates not showing up and that you were concerned for your grade. You have to be responsible for yourself. Don't expect the teacher to be "aww poor you" when you clearly could have said something earlier. I'm going to assume you're in college since you mention people dropping the class. If this is the case, you're completely old enough to realize that teachers have other things to do in their lives besides worrying about if your team mates are still in the class.

Sorry, but I sincerely doubt you're going to get anything out of your teacher. It seems weird that your grade is that low after tanking a final only worth 20% of your grade. Seems to me you weren't an incredible student to begin with. Not trying to be rude, just showing you that you earned your grade. Your teacher didn't give you anything.

[Eviscero]

Don't you think you should have made your instructor aware of the fact that your entire group had bailed on you? If you had I am sure he would have had you switch into another group.

I am sure you didn't go to him earlier in the semester. I am sure he didn't say "tough shit, DO IT ALONE!" I am sure you are like 90% of college students: entitled and clueless.

[VanillaO]

If 4/5 is 90% of your group, you should probably retake a math class, too.

Honestly though, if 3 people dropped the class that late that you couldn't talk to your prof and work something out, that's kinda fucked.. what school do you go to in Toronto? If it's the same one I went to, I can PM you some info on who you can talk to in a few of the departments.

[Dendrek]

Sucks, but all you are making is excuses. Could he have given you that little bit of points for you to pass? Sure. Could you have tried harder earlier in the class so you didn't get in that position anyways? Absolutely.

I'm going to have to go with this as well. I've had plenty of teachers who were quite open about their policy of "Depending on how much effort you put into this class, I may swing your final grade by a few percentage points. That can easily be the difference between an A or a B in the class." And in your case, it appears to be the difference between passing and failing. If I were the teacher of a student who literally put in just enough effort to get a 49.82%, I'd let him keep it. If my class is worth so little to you, then you passing it is worth less to me.

Sorry if that's not the advice you wanted to hear.

[gooftastic]

He didn't give you an F, you earned an F. Once you realize that it's YOUR grade, not your teacher's, your school life will be less complicated. You should have gone to the teacher earlier in the semester about your team mates not showing up and that you were concerned for your grade. You have to be responsible for yourself. Don't expect the teacher to be "aww poor you" when you clearly could have said something earlier. I'm going to assume you're in college since you mention people dropping the class. If this is the case, you're completely old enough to realize that teachers have other things to do in their lives besides worrying about if your team mates are still in the class.

Sorry, but I sincerely doubt you're going to get anything out of your teacher. It seems weird that your grade is that after tanking a final only worth 20% of your grade. Seems to me you weren't an incredible student to begin with. Not trying to be rude, just showing you that you earned your grade. Your teacher didn't give you anything.

Pretty much this. I mean, you knew those students had dropped the class before just then, right? But you might (I don't know shit about Canadian universities) be able to talk to the dean of the department or something and plead your case. They might give you the little bit of slack you need.

[Endus]

1> If I'm reading this right, the presentation and written report were worth 20% of your total, and you got 70/100 on the presentation, and 18/100 on the report (changing to /100 to avoid confusion with the total % values), for a total of 88/200, or (converting for the 20% of your total grade) 8.8% of your mark. Meaning if you got 49.82% total, for the other 80 marks of your grade, you were at 41.02, just barely passing. This wasn't a case of a single project screwing you.

2> You're responsible for your work. You should've known way ahead of "only hours to go" that you weren't going to get any help on the written report. Since you said three of the others dropped the course, your prof knows that, and would understand. Meaning he'd evaluate you on the work it was reasonable to expect a single person to do. As for the other guy not handing his work in, that isn't how you do a team project. You get it finished, collate the whole thing, and had the whole thing in, typically. Otherwise, it isn't actually a team project, and you'd be marked on your own portion separately (which I'm assuming isn't what happened, or you wouldn't be complaining).

If you'd been pulling even a 60% or so leading up to this, getting hosed and being unprepared would still have gotten you a pass. You're earning the fail, here. In general, anything under a 70% means you should've been able to do better.

[Shadoweye]

shit.... i wish i could get marks that low... i cant get below an 80%, everything below that is not passing for my courses.

[vuulu]

Understandable but when its a class such as business management and not math where you can see exactly where you get wrong by a mistake in a calculation then the teacher has some control over the mark. I know I wasn't doing well on the class that's why i studied my ass off and got 86% on the finial test, and at the end of the day when he made the groups and grouped me up with people who didn't want to participate in the class and give me such a low mark due to the group work its a bit ridiculous.

[Darkrulerxxx]

man 50%, i wish i could pass with 50%, although for engineering, anything less than an A (90%) and you're screwed.

OT: As others have said, you need to take responsibility for what has happened and learn that next time you should take preemptive measures to ensure you're not fucked over by other team members...i usually like to do projects solo as having other team members, usually in any educational setting, there is the possibility you will get the baddies.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Shoulda talked with your professor sooner. Life lesson.

[Endus]

Too be honest i cant control 4 of my members not doing any work i had to do all their work while doing my other 5 classes.

You can control knowing what they're doing and how much they've got done on the project, and whether they're even going to bother doing it, and if they aren't you go to the prof and explain it and ask him what to do.

No prof will expect you to do the work of 5 people, and I doubt every class they have evenly breaks down to 5-person groups. But saying you'll hand in a 5-person project and handing in 1/5th of it is why you got an 18% on the written report. Even doing a half-assed one-man attempt at the full thing would have probably earned you a 60%. Especially if you'd gone to see your prof about the problem.


And again; even having a reasonable grade going into a final project worth 20%, you could have gotten 0 on the whole thing and still passed. Your poor work in the rest of the course is a solid contributor to your failing grade.

[cpillow]

So you had been doing bad up to this point and suddenly decide to kick it in gear for this project? You did this to yourself. If you REALLY wanted to pass you would have tried harder the rest of the course. Don't slack on your schooling, dude.

[Zaqwert]

I'm gonna be "that guy" and point out that the teacher didn't fail you. You failed yourself.

Had you studied harder, worked harder, done a little bit more, you wouldn't be fretting over passing or failing by .18%.

Not the teacher's fault.