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    Florida Business decides to pay "living wage" ahead of any Min Wage updates

    On its own, Jaxson's vows to pay higher wages

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...n-minimum-wage


    Good for him I applaud, and that is the way it should be each individual business and their employees to make the decisions on wages not government

    Now we will see how it works. Is his service and product going to offset the extra labor cost he might have to pass on to the customer? I hope so, but that is going to be up to the consumer to decide.
    I my self am willing to pay a few dollars more for better quality of service and or product
    are you? Is the American consumer going to?
    if the consumer is more inclined to demand better quality of service and or product instead of lower prices then other business would be able and need to pay higher wages to achieve that better quality of service and or product

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    Judging from places like Wegman's, employees that are paid and treated better are better employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    Good for him I applaud, and that is the way it should be each individual business and their employees to make the decisions on wages not government
    An exception is how it should be? Everyone else just gets to keep sucking on the teat of the government while they get paid unlivable wages?

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    That said, this place raised their minimum wage and didn't somehow peter out like the doomsayers say they should have. So I guess raising the federal minimum wage, won't adversely affect other businesses either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    That said, this place raised their minimum wage and didn't somehow peter out like the doomsayers say they should have. So I guess raising the federal minimum wage, won't adversely affect other businesses either.
    Queue "But this place isn't a small business" or "this place operates in high income areas" or some other garbage excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    On its own, Jaxson's vows to pay higher wages

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...n-minimum-wage


    Good for him I applaud, and that is the way it should be each individual business and their employees to make the decisions on wages not government

    Now we will see how it works. Is his service and product going to offset the extra labor cost he might have to pass on to the customer? I hope so, but that is going to be up to the consumer to decide.
    I my self am willing to pay a few dollars more for better quality of service and or product
    are you? Is the American consumer going to?
    if the consumer is more inclined to demand better quality of service and or product instead of lower prices then other business would be able and need to pay higher wages to achieve that better quality of service and or product
    The federal government has the right to regulate interstate business as per the constitution. The exact reason for this is to prevent companies from succeeding by paying scumbag wages. The fact that some companies voluntarily pay more is irrelevant to the discussion.

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    My question is this: If all places are forced to pay what you call a "living wage" what about the people that already make that for more intensive work? Are they also due a raise consummate to what the people below them got? This would move on and on up the ladder. The ripple effect would simply just cause inflation as costs of products go up in relation to the wage increases, nothing changes. This is kinda how economics works.

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    I'm not against minimum wage increases, but wage increases across the board would need to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkash View Post
    My question is this: If all places are forced to pay what you call a "living wage" what about the people that already make that for more intensive work? Are they also due a raise consummate to what the people below them got? This would move on and on up the ladder. The ripple effect would simply just cause inflation as costs of products go up in relation to the wage increases, nothing changes. This is kinda how economics works.

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    I'm not against minimum wage increases, but wage increases across the board would need to follow.
    What makes you think they don't follow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkash View Post
    My question is this: If all places are forced to pay what you call a "living wage" what about the people that already make that for more intensive work? Are they also due a raise consummate to what the people below them got? This would move on and on up the ladder. The ripple effect would simply just cause inflation as costs of products go up in relation to the wage increases, nothing changes. This is kinda how economics works.

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    I'm not against minimum wage increases, but wage increases across the board would need to follow.
    Which historically HAS happened. It ends up being a wage boost across the board.

    The only concern now is the decent jump that has to occur because of how far behind we got. If the government had kept up on regular increases to keep it in line with inflation, we wouldn't have needed the 3 dollar jump that's needed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Judging from places like Wegman's, employees that are paid and treated better are better employees.
    and they also give better service and or product for being happy employees
    not very familiar with Wegman, but from the little information I read they are a higher end super market where people are willing to spend a little more for better service and or product and for Wegmans to offer that better service and product they pay higher wages
    Last edited by Vyxn; 2014-05-21 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkash View Post
    My question is this: If all places are forced to pay what you call a "living wage" what about the people that already make that for more intensive work? Are they also due a raise consummate to what the people below them got? This would move on and on up the ladder. The ripple effect would simply just cause inflation as costs of products go up in relation to the wage increases, nothing changes. This is kinda how economics works.

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    I'm not against minimum wage increases, but wage increases across the board would need to follow.
    Minimum wage effects pretty much all lower end hourly jobs.

    If a bagger makes the same amount as your stockers, the stockers aren't going to be happy. If your assistant managers are getting the same pay as stockers they aren't happy with getting pay capped at their level so they go up. Managers go up. People in other fields say "hey they are making almost as much as me why should I get the same as them?".

    Minimum wage pretty much improves the lives of all lower class citizens even if they aren't making minimum wage currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    An exception is how it should be? Everyone else just gets to keep sucking on the teat of the government while they get paid unlivable wages?
    I never can understand how an individual can be paid less than a livable wage.
    There should be an agreeable standard of time, which when worked, should provide sufficient or greater income to be able to live modestly in the general area of the place of employment.
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    10 bucks an hour, that's a joke lol
    Adding to it, that it's south florida where they are milking tourists left and right, it becomes ever more shabby.
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    Yeah who would think that paying your employees more meant: you retain better employees, they're happier, they can afford to spend their money on leisure items which boosts business across the board, etc. But beware if you say anything bad about capitalism you're a socialist piece of shit. Pfft I'm tired of the people who are getting fucked by the current systems claiming we shouldn't be getting better. You DESERVE to be able to live life with a little wiggle room. Sure if you aren't good with your finances that's on you, but the average Joe-blow should be able to live without it being paycheck to paycheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkash View Post
    My question is this: If all places are forced to pay what you call a "living wage" what about the people that already make that for more intensive work? Are they also due a raise consummate to what the people below them got? This would move on and on up the ladder. The ripple effect would simply just cause inflation as costs of products go up in relation to the wage increases, nothing changes. This is kinda how economics works.

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    I'm not against minimum wage increases, but wage increases across the board would need to follow.
    It's the same as most new hires getting paid more than old timers in the same position. It's why ideally, you are supposed to change jobs every 4 years. The onus is on you to get paid more, if you feel like your current salary does not relatively match new hires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    I never can understand how an individual can be paid less than a livable wage.
    There should be an agreeable standard of time, which when worked, should provide sufficient or greater income to be able to live modestly in the general area of the place of employment.
    There hasn't been any big wars or diseases in the past few decades and globalization has hit. The value of labor has gone down minimum wage with welfare are the only reason we don't have shanty towns like third world nations.

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    Subsidizing minimum wage workers with my taxes shouldn't happen. Everyone working full time should not be on any kind of welfare, as in... wages should be high enough that people can afford the basics.
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