They need to nerf KDY leveling

[Tesket]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days and people come in and get 55 in a week and act like they know everything. and even with my Founder and Legendary legacy title, these kids walk around like they are the best.

[Magpai]

making us vets feel like crap

This is your problem for basing your self-worth on other players' experiences.

[Krolikn]

Actually you should be thanking bad players for making you, "a vet", look good. Stop whining.

[Magpai]

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days

Nobody owes you respect for being a beta vet.

[nomorepriest]

Time to play another game then.

[LurkerOnly]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days and people come in and get 55 in a week and act like they know everything. and even with my Founder and Legendary legacy title, these kids walk around like they are the best.

If your great-great-grandfather had been a blacksmith, he'd complain about how all the kids these days think they're the best because of "easy" hydraulic presses and arc-welders.

Just because you've been doing it longer doesn't give you a magic "I'm better than everyone who is new" badge.

Go out there and prove you're the best instead of expecting it to be handed to you.

The epics aren't welfare, the levels aren't welfare, the raids aren't too easy to access, but your old titles and prestige you think you've got because you've been playing the game longer than someone else is welfare, and you're crying because it isn't worth as much anymore.

Want to be great, then go prove it every day. TOR, your job, your education, whatever. If you want to be seen as great, show yourself as great instead of resting on your laurels.

Take this opportunity to learn an important life-lesson from a game.

[inboundpaper]

Its not like leveling is hard the normal way. I've seen some baaaad people at level cap.

[hulkgor]

Oh wow, i wasn't expecting this one.

The new players that level through KDY make you, a "vet", feel like crap? How, what, where, whaaaaa?

Isn't it enough that you enjoy a game, to play? Why does other people experience it a different way affect you in any way, shape or form? Geez.

[Teebone]

And here I was thinking this sort of toxic attitude was exclusive to WoW. I stand corrected.

[Magpai]

And here I was thinking this sort of toxic attitude was exclusive to WoW. I stand corrected.

The desire to make other people's lives more difficult is universal, I'm afraid.

[skitzin]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

Well WoW is very end game focused now days. There is little to nothing offered during your leveling experience that adds anything by the time you get to end game. In fact for the majority of WoWs life it has been a about the endgame. So you're already several expansions too late on that front.

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days

I seriously fell off my chair laughing. Seriously?

You're only as good as your latest achievements be it raiding or PvP or whatever. Randomly being selected for participation in a beta is not an achievement.

[Stormcall]

This is your problem for basing your self-worth on other players' experiences.

This. If other people getting to 55 fast makes you "feel like crap", you're too fucking sensitive and shouldn't even be on the goddamn internet, much less in an MMO.

Oh, by the way champ, I've been playing since a month after release, being max level has NEVER been an accomplishment or "meant anything", a real beta vet would already know that. Seriously, since the fucking game BEGAN you could get to max level in a couple weeks if you wanted, as long you didn't spend time dicking around with alts, or grinding social points in BT or whatever. Maybe the fact that you're so clueless about such well known facts is why you "get no respect"?

[quras]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days and people come in and get 55 in a week and act like they know everything. and even with my Founder and Legendary legacy title, these kids walk around like they are the best.

LMAO - SWTOR at least requires you to play.

WOW just lets you buy a max level toon. How screwed up is that?

But really, Magpai said it best "Stop basing your self-worth on other players' experiences.

Or even lack of.

[Fkiolaris]

The biggest issue with tactical flashpoints is that they starve people out of other multiplayer activities, primarily the normal style flashpoints. In general, I find that the "solution" to long queues for DPS players in a trinity-based game being to abolish the trinity system to be idiotic, but that's just me. They could have taken another page from WoW and try things like extra rewards for tanks/healers, increase the size of groups to either a fixed number or in a Flex kind of way (and retune the FPs) etc etc. But no, they just offered the easiest way out and the hell with the game.

On the other hand, cross-realm queues are not being introduced because "they would be bad for the game community". Whatever Bioware, whatever.

PS 10/10 for the veteran comment.

[Orange Joe]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days and people come in and get 55 in a week and act like they know everything. and even with my Founder and Legendary legacy title, these kids walk around like they are the best.

This is making me want to laugh at you more than respect you.

[Kelimbror]

The irony being that the same poster also made this thread:http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...8#post27116888

[Edge-]

Hitting 55 isn't any kind of difficult, or overly time consuming challenge. Someone else hitting it faster than you in no way detracts from your accomplishment of hitting 55 without farming KDY.

And nobody owes you respect simply for hitting max level. Assholes will be assholes, regardless of how they make it to max level.

[Tyris Flare]

Jokes on them, since the game is better from 1-54 anyway.

(I seriously wish you could disable Xp at 54 to just stay in those pvp brackets forever)

[ldev]

It is way too quick to level these days - you get 10% bonus xp just for being in a guild, and they got way too many weeklies and noobs are just joining up and kdying to 55 within a couple weeks then making us vets feel like crap, yet no one realizes how some of us have been playing since beta, have legacy level 50, and put a lot of dedication into this game, casual teens just coemone, get to 55 then say the game's boring, and it just seems ridiculous to have so many max level characters walking around - being max level doesn't mean anything because leveling is a joke now!

I'm sure many other beta vets would agree with me, we aren't getting our proper respect these days and people come in and get 55 in a week and act like they know everything. and even with my Founder and Legendary legacy title, these kids walk around like they are the best.

Rock your Founder title.

[Nurvus]

@OP
So you have Legacy, all sorts of gear, maxed tradeskills, unlocked companions, titles, etc.
And you're saying you feel like crap just because players get to max level faster than you did?
Even though they have nothing other than max level?

With "vets" like you, the game is sure to go far.