Why is this website so "liberal"?

[Xanjori]

Explain that to American founding fathers. I don't think they'd be happy consider the entire rest of the world seen slavery as the norm. Imagine this same argument 200 years ago.

We banned slavery long before the US did, so what's your point?

And the reason you see so many "conservatives" banned is because they come on here, denounce everyone as satan and call anyone that disagrees with them an idiot. Maybe if they were capable of holding a conversation in which they relied on facts to support their argument you wouldn't see them banned so often.

[Boricha]

Because most of the people that post here have a liberal viewpoint, so conservatives usually get pushed under the rug since they are always in minority. I have no data to back it up, but from personal experience I'd say conservatism as a whole is in decline where I live, especially in the younger generations. At least in it's traditional form.

[Vargur]

I'm not even sure what republican/liberal/conservatorist means, nor do I care. Why do you people let politics affect the way you live? And why do you bring politics, even in off-topic, here?

[Underverse]

MMOchamp is unfair to things like conservatism and traditionalism. It is mostly populated by those against said things, and while the 'discussion' of things like religion, sexuality and what not are clearly stated to be banned, they are allowed to persist whenever they are politically correct. For example: Trying to refute a religion = perfectly ok, while trying to defend a religion = religious talk therefore you get infractions or something. Even the mods themselves make it clear which side they are fighting for in their posts, and while that isn't inherently a bad thing it is clearly one sided and more infractions get handed to those they deem to be breaking rules based on their own interpretations of what a rule means, as well as capitalizing on the "we can ban you for whatever the heck we want" rule.

This is true to a small degree, but I would not say that this site is 'unfair' to things like conservativism and traditionalism - rather, it is unfair to illogical personal attacks and unabashed bigotry. These mechanisms tend to burden the right slightly more than they burden the left, as per the definitions of conservativism and traditionalism.

[Deleted]

This website was started by a french men, so it has a huge EU base.

I am pretty sure there are more US users than EU. Feels like this site is way more active during evening hours in USA.

[mvaliz]

MMOchamp is unfair to things like conservatism and traditionalism. It is mostly populated by those against said things, and while the 'discussion' of things like religion, sexuality and what not are clearly stated to be banned, they are allowed to persist whenever they are politically correct. For example: Trying to refute a religion = perfectly ok, while trying to defend a religion = religious talk therefore you get infractions or something. Even the mods themselves make it clear which side they are fighting for in their posts, and while that isn't inherently a bad thing it is clearly one sided and more infractions get handed to those they deem to be breaking rules based on their own interpretations of what a rule means, as well as capitalizing on the "we can ban you for whatever the heck we want" rule.

None of that is true

I've never seen any thread trying to "refute" religion be fine by the mods. Usually they're locked before they hit page 2. Refuting religion is, indeed, against the ToC you signed, just as much as defending a religion tends to translate into "My religion is right because YOURS is wrong, and these are the reasons why YOURS is wrong..."

Sexuality is only permissible when discussion major topics such as a specific law that's passed. If it's just a post shouting at one side or the other, it will get shut down. But usually if the law-thread devolves into sexual persuasion bashing instead of the law itself, it will get shut down.

[Tikaru]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's because you'll find more young gamers who are liberals than you will find conservatives?

I mean, think about it: we're online, talking to people in different parts of the world. Different cultures are mingling like never before. Are you really shocked to find more liberals? People are being exposed to different ideas and different ways of life, so they're more open-minded. This is why I think the GOP is in such trouble in the US.

[Xanjori]

I am pretty sure there are more US users than EU. Feels like this site is way more active during evening hours in USA.

It's about 40/60 in favour of EU IIRC.

[Revi]

This is true to a small degree, but I would not say that this site is 'unfair' to things like conservativism and traditionalism - rather, it is unfair to illogical personal attacks and unabashed bigotry. These mechanisms tend to burden the right slightly more than they burden the left, as per the definitions of conservativism and traditionalism.

This. No one is being banned for their opinion if they express it respectfully with arguments.

[Underverse]

I'm not even sure what republican/liberal/conservatorist means, nor do I care. Why do you people let politics affect the way you live? And why do you bring politics, even in off-topic, here?

People like to talk about ideas - politics. There's nothing wrong with that, and there's certainly nothing wrong with doing it in an off-topic forum. I wouldn't say that people let politics affect the way they live (at least, in many cases; I'm sure there are some that do); it's more likely that people use the words liberal and conservative to give others a general idea of their stance on a broader set of ideals. Which I think is reasonable, as long as these people also understand that not every belief will follow the common pattern of left or right.

[Jester Joe]

None of that is true

I've never seen any thread trying to "refute" religion be fine by the mods. Usually they're locked before they hit page 2. Refuting religion is, indeed, against the ToC you signed, just as much as defending a religion tends to translate into "My religion is right because YOURS is wrong, and these are the reasons why YOURS is wrong..."

Sexuality is only permissible when discussion major topics such as a specific law that's passed. If it's just a post shouting at one side or the other, it will get shut down. But usually if the law-thread devolves into sexual persuasion bashing instead of the law itself, it will get shut down.

I think the problem comes also from some people consider bashing each other's beliefs as an actual debate.

[Mein Kampf]

I'm sorry, I cannot be apart of a political party that wishes to blame white people for everything. The more the left pushes this racist crap, the more I distance myself from it. I believe in god and my rights, I guess I'm a bad for that.

[Ilgalar]

Mein Kampf simply means my struggle in german? Just because a book written by one of the most hated figures in history was called Mein Kampf does not make those words necessarily evil. What if he is an emo German? Think before you speak.

[Elegiac]

I'm not a liberal. I'm a socialist.

[vindicatorx]

Yes and get banned by mods that hold Liberal political attitudes. How convenient.

Nah they just make asinine blanket statement arguments like saying "all mods are liberal and ban anyone who has a differing opinion". Most of your fellow conservatives don't use logic or reason in their claims and it is pretty hard to take someone like that seriously. I mean so far you seem to do what a lot of them do. Pose a slanted question in your case why is this website so liberal, which immediately garners the attention of anyone who is somewhat liberal. Next someone makes a broad statement explaining why in this case the first responder said they get banned. Then you make the logical fallacy that they get banned for having a different opinion and basically repeat that till you resort to telling everyone else they have no original ideas or have no opinions of their own. Finally you will resort to name calling and get banned. You obviously came here looking for a fight and when you lose you will violate forum rules. It's that simple.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Explain that to American founding fathers. I don't think they'd be happy consider the entire rest of the world seen slavery as the norm. Imagine this same argument 200 years ago.

If you were to open a history textbook, you'll find that Slavery was set on the road to abolishment in 1772 in England, the Slave Trade Act (1807) effectively shut down the transatlantic slave trade and slavery was officially abolished across the entire British Empire in 1833 through the Slavery Abolition Act.

[Mein Kampf]

I'm not a liberal. I'm a socialist.

national socialist party... hmm.

[THE Bigzoman]

MMOchamp is unfair to things like conservatism and traditionalism. It is mostly populated by those against said things, and while the 'discussion' of things like religion, sexuality and what not are clearly stated to be banned, they are allowed to persist whenever they are politically correct. For example: Trying to refute a religion = perfectly ok, while trying to defend a religion = religious talk therefore you get infractions or something. Even the mods themselves make it clear which side they are fighting for in their posts, and while that isn't inherently a bad thing it is clearly one sided and more infractions get handed to those they deem to be breaking rules based on their own interpretations of what a rule means, as well as capitalizing on the "we can ban you for whatever the heck we want" rule.

This is true. Moderator intervention doesn't occur until someone refutes a religious attack rather then at the time of said religious attack.

This is from what i've seen.

[Radux]

Alright this thread has just a bit too much political bashing towards both ends of the spectrum to continue going.

Closed.