Animal cruelty charges dropped in torture-porn case.

[Al Gorefiend]

Because animals don't understand the concept of suffering while we do you stupid sack of sh**. How hard is that for you idiots to understand?

You know absolutely nothing about animals. Educate yourself.

[Deleted]

I actually think the only way to respond to this is by meme as I'm out of words. I could say Murica but I don't want to taste the jolly good banhammer.

[Al Gorefiend]

That's called being irrational, regardless of what you want to perceive. No one deserves death. How are you any better for wanting to kill a human? Sure they killed animals, but you think you're any better for killing humans? You'd be in the same group as those individuals who committed the crimes. Life is about being the bigger person and understanding what's wrong. We don't correct someones wrong by doing another wrong, that's just idiotic. Am I justifying what they did? Hell no, it's horrible... but you can't expect any rational person to concur w/ what you said. The best thing we can do at this point is keep an eye on those people and make sure they don't repeat their past. If they do, we'll catch them and they'll serve their time and pay up the hefty fines that follow. Death is just the lazy/quick/irrational way to solve a problem. Why do you think so many irrational teens decide to shoot up a school rather than fix their issues? Simply because it's the easier route. Life isn't about always taking the easier route, sure it's tempting, but you need to understand that the best solution won't come to us at first. Gotta spend a little bit of time searching before it becomes clear.

Funny you say this, yet nobody bats an eye when dogs are put down for biting or aggressively licking a stranger. In fact, remember that cutesie "HERO CAT SAVES KID FROM DOG ATTACK!" The dog in that video was killed out of revenge. The people who cried for the dog's death are just as barbaric as the dog.

animal lovers are just extremist hypocrites... you think only humans are cruel against animals? you thinks animals dont rape or torture other animals? hell even our beloved housecats play with their prey before killing it...
where did we lose the respect for our own race? where do you take the right to decide who deserves to die and who doesnt?

you people are overzealus over human actions against animals, but animal vs animal you dont give a damn because they are "cute". you are the same pests for society like all other extremist groups out there. taking away human rights and making cute bunnies and cats the kings of the world is your dream.

insanity.

on this case: killing !anything! should never be glorified in any kind of form and of course those people should get punished for it. probably not 10 years or anything, it was just animals, but still something harsh for promoting animal cruelty and killing.

I feel an equal amount of sympathy for dying animals that I do for dying strangers. Death is death, and death is eternal. Thinking one is more tragic than another is appealing to emotions.

[Friendlyimmolation]

God dammit Florida. It almost looks like they are trying to make robot chicken sketches come to life. But I do agree with some other people here that animal cruelty should have a much bigger punishment.

Edit: Anyone who says animals don't understand suffering needs to screw off.

[Hiricine]

I used to have difficulty defining what a "chaotic evil" character looked like, until today.

[Fargus]

This is a joke.

Any reasonable legal system would put these people in jail.

Statute of limitations? They have video footage of it ffs... it probably didn't even happen a decade ago.

[Durantye]

So they are idiots trying to convince people that as adults they didn't know animal cruelty was bad, they worked in the porn industry, and they well tortured animals and killed animals for no reason.

Their parents must be so proud.

[Fargus]

If the statute of limitations has expired, what do you expect them to do? Break the law to prosecute someone who broke the law?

Challenge it in the supreme/high court or whatever court has the power to make exceptions.

These two women should not be allowed to walk away unpunished.

[IRunSoFarAway]

The two models are hot.

Two prostitutes, one that looks like a transvestite with implants and is as white as a ghost from crack, the other has visible meth sores on her face, I fail to see the hot, well...unless that's your definition of hot, then I guess they are hot.

Oh, hey, look...
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/S...a_3156079/?d=1

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/S..._17036266/?d=1

That's a lot of awesome in one place.

[anyaka21]

Happened 10 years ago. Obviously the cases were dropped. PETA was digging way too deep looking for someone's life to ruin.

If this happened last week, they WOULD be thrown in jail, no exceptions. It happened back in 2004, and the women who did it understand what they've done and were desperate at the time.

I would suggest that is what PETA is doing now. They want to destroy someone's life. Why else would you pursue something that is obviously going to get thrown out due to the statute of limitations.

What I think might have been a better lawsuit is going after the website and those who sponsor it. It seems that legally, since the video is/was still being sold, they could prosecute on that basis. but approaching this by trying to prosecute the actors was just plain stupid.

[Fargus]

I would suggest that is what PETA is doing now. They want to destroy someone's life. Why else would you pursue something that is obviously going to get thrown out due to the statute of limitations.

What I think might have been a better lawsuit is going after the website and those who sponsor it. It seems that legally, since the video is/was still being sold, they could prosecute on that basis. but approaching this by trying to prosecute the actors was just plain stupid.

No, they destroyed their own lives by torturing animals for sexual pleasure on film. Not like PETA need to do anything, anyway. Those two bitches have created their own reputation. Their names and faces will be all over the net for people to see what sick shits they really are. Perhaps they should have thought about that before setting animals on fire, or slowly crushing them to death for sexual pleasure. I don't care if it happened 10 years ago, the statute for this kind of thing is absolutely ridiculous. What they did was still heinous and should still be punished. No excuses for this.

Happened 10 years ago. Obviously the cases were dropped. PETA was digging way too deep looking for someone's life to ruin.

If this happened last week, they WOULD be thrown in jail, no exceptions. It happened back in 2004, and the women who did it understand what they've done and were desperate at the time.

You reap what you sow, these woman ruined their lives as soon as they agreed to torture animals in a porno film.

Why should it matter if it happened 10 years ago? They have video footage of them slowly crushing rabbits and setting wounded rats on fire FFS. All while doing sexual activities. For someone who is a proud defender of animal rights, you sure are looking for excuses, which is why I am disappointed with your post. Let's not kid ourselves, they only "understand" what they did because they got into trouble for it. At 18 they could have turned down such a job and do something else, not like it would have been their only option. And even if it was, they didn't know it was wrong? Bull-fucking-shit. Are we supposed to believe that, do they really think people are that stupid? They put out the victim card, because they're making excuses for the inexcusable. Nothing more. It's an act.

And you can tell they had no remorse, by their casual dismissal of the animals they tortured. They concede that the animals suffered, then add with "even if it's only a chicken and a rabbit". I don't really care what the statute of limitations says, they still tortured animals in a snuff film for sexual purposes. A completely ridiculous technicality to have in a crime of this nature, and it shouldn't apply here. These woman are monsters and should be punished, whether it was done a year or ten years ago.

[Deleted]

Nemo legem ignorare censetur aka not knowing the law does not exonerate one from the punishment of the law. But this is a matter of statue of limitations, or better said, the time frame in which the girls should've been prosecuted expired.

[Deleted]

The defense claimed that the two individuals suffered from intellectual or development disability (not rlly).

[Lily Crowley]

Having a time frame on when someone can get convicted and punished for a crime is RIDICULOUS. Obviously these people are fucking sick monsters and should NOT be allowed to walk free in society. Who knows what other sick shit they've done in the meantime or what they might do in the future? My bets are on them not being clean AT ALL.

[Deleted]

That is awful.
The fact that she says she is the victim is baffling. She didn't know what she was doing was wrong? I can't help but not believe that.

It's judicial mambo-jumbo. Crap they say for the sake of falling into a legal pattern that their lawyer can work with. The same as a murderer pleading not guilty to a crime, even though there is truckload of evidence and witnesses and he did indeed do it, but as long as he claims he's innocent, the lawyer may find a way to get him scott free afterall.

[Deleted]

Having a time frame on when someone can get convicted and punished for a crime is RIDICULOUS.

There's a good reason why a statue of limitations is in place. Mainly, because of the legal requirements that are needed to exist in order for the statue to operate, and it's very very rare for this means of removing criminal liability to take place.

First of all, there has to be a lapse of time, which in most serious crimes is over 10 years, in which there would be no procedural act effectuated by the authorities in said matter, as well as a negative requirement from the offender, of not be guilty of committing a new crime after that ( which interrupts the statue of limitations )
Second of all, if the above requirements are respected, the "offender" is free of charge because in that long time frame it's considered he had enough time to reflect upon his mistakes and correct himself, thus the second role of the criminal law being accomplished ( correcting the behavior )

I'm not going to comment on the second part though, that's just senseless prejudice and lack of logical thinking.

[Fargus]

Second of all, if the above requirements are respected, the "offender" is free of charge because in that long time frame it's considered he had enough time to reflect upon his mistakes and correct himself, thus the second role of the criminal law being accomplished ( correcting the behavior )

Time to reflect. Hah. It is most likely they do not give a damn what they did, only that they were caught. How do you know they don't have more videos of this?

A statue of limitations for something like this is ridiculous. It's 5 years in Florida I think. It is wrong that these people did something so horrific yet will not be punished for it. Utterly ridiculous.

[matt4pack]

You know absolutely nothing about animals. Educate yourself.

Animals doing cruel things doesn't mean they understand the suffering they're inflicting you fool. We as humans completely understand the concept of suffering which makes it different.

How about you educate yourself but I'm sure that would require too much critical thinking for you beyond the typical well dolphins do it so it's ok.

[Deleted]

I guess i'm judging it based upon an English POV where we have no statue of limitations, or anything remotely similar to it.

We have a civil claim law which is something for outside criminal matters, but eh.

Like, we've been having a multitude of sexual crimes from the 50's and 60's and 70's being tried the past 2 or so years.

[Deleted]

“We were manipulated and convinced that these things were alright. And unfortunately they were very wrong and now we have to pay the consequences, even if it was 10 years ago.”

You freakos. Convinced that these things were alright? Did they tell you the bunnies enjoyed being set on fire?