Student's quick thinking saved lives from a gunman

[Shocktroop]

Pepper spray and quick thinking, good work young man.

As far as saving countless lives, the idiot was using a shotgun and had to reload after killing 1/wounding 2 so it was not likely he was going to do much after that.

[Calfredd]

Him being quiet, gentle, outdoorsy are also irrelevant to the act of heroism, no need to give much attention to the fact that his religion was mentioned.

I'd actually think these are very relevant to his act of heroism. Ok, maybe not so much outdoorsy but the words "gentle" and "quiet" don't lend credence as someone who would leap into action.

[Stormdash]

Probably not legal to carry a gun on campus.

Pepper spray is as effective in a man's hands as a woman's.

It'll give you the opening you need to flee or get the upper-hand in a fight.

Well, wait a second, if guns are illegal on campus, how did the gunman get one there? o.O

[Vargur]

He probably learned it from videogames. And why did he have a spray in the first place? Are women harassing him?

[Tierbook]

Reason you probably didn't hear much about it was because of the shooting in Canada.

[Zoaric]

Well, wait a second, if guns are illegal on campus, how did the gunman get one there? o.O

... That's like saying "If killing is illegal, how'd he do it?" Just because X isn't allowed
somewhere, doesn't mean there's lots of anti X measures in place.
For instance, my high school had a no-gun policy, but no guards, no metal detectors,
nothing you could get one in easy. (Then again, we also had a "No knives with blades
longer than three inches policy." So it's not like we were strict. >.> )

[Pool of the Dead]

The amount of words like "faith" and "devoted" and "spiritual" in this article just seem like pandering to the religious crowd.

/yawnworthy.

[Goondicker]

GG to this guy.

I also find it odd a male student was carrying pepper spray, but I suppose he made the right call.

Need more dudes like him. No sense in sitting there waiting your turn. At least do something, ya know?

[anyaka21]

I would say that him being a Christian is relevant to the story because people actually want to know it. They what their heroes described to them, and this would also arguably the most important facet in describing him. I would add that most people would think that Christians are pacifists, for the most part and unable to do this, thus the interesting point about the story.

On a side note, the Christian part also describes the kid that lost his life due to this shooter as well.

[Kowloon]

Pepper spray? Better get out your whistles to let everybody know there's danger afoot.

And the sheer amount of poor choices in adjectives by the writer is awful. "Spirituality". His 'creator' would be quite upset that he physically harmed another human being regardless of that persons actions. It's said that they are to 'turn the other cheek' when faced with an enemy.

'quiet' 'under the radar' 'values his privacy' 'we're not talking to anybody' and this guy has dangerous chemicals hidden on him at all times?

[Zoaric]

They what their heroes described to them, and this would also arguably the most important facet in describing him.

Plus, judging from the other adjectives used, it's possible it was one of very few
descriptors they had to work with.

Pepper spray? Better get out your whistles to let everybody know there's danger afoot.

And the sheer amount of poor choices in adjectives by the writer is awful. "Spirituality". His 'creator' would be quite upset that he physically harmed another human being regardless of that persons actions. It's said that they are to 'turn the other cheek' when faced with an enemy.

'quiet' 'under the radar' 'values his privacy' 'we're not talking to anybody' and this guy has dangerous chemicals hidden on him at all times?

Saving lives is actually considered a far better thing than temporarily blinding someone;
at least by most religions- but, I don't wanna start a religiousity discussion here.

Perhaps he's bullied or has to walk through a dangerous neighborhood? Maybe he goes
in woods with bears and had run out of bear spray?

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I'd actually think these are very relevant to his act of heroism. Ok, maybe not so much outdoorsy but the words "gentle" and "quiet" don't lend credence as someone who would leap into action.

Er, no. Quiet or loud doesn't mean shit.

[OzoAndIndi]

Wow, way to go, the kid's a damn pepper spray ninja!

Kind of annoying imo that when the tragedies happen and it's all over the news, the "arm everyone with guns!" band starts playing it's tune again. To think, this kid did it with pepper spray and quick take down.

Ok, maybe not so much outdoorsy but the words "gentle" and "quiet" don't lend credence as someone who would leap into action.

You know what they say, "it's the quiet ones you have to look out for." People seem to take that as someone who's going to snap... Rather it might be the one who jumps your ass should you pull anything. lol No on even suspects what the quiet, gentle one is capable of.

[Deleted]

Oh, country bashing. How original

OT: You didn't hear about it because it wasn't international news. Hell, it's not really even national news. It's a regional story. Sure, we heard about it here, that evening (including the part about the guy that stopped him). But why should news organizations keep the story going? In this case, to report on the hero is to report on the lunatic as well. Why give a murderer fame? It would be irresponsible of the news agencies to do so. It is this sensationalizing of school shootings by the media and the subsequent immortalizing of murderer that made it such a popular act. (Popular is the wrong word, but I think I got my meaning across).

Nobody remembers the victims' name. Nobody remembers the heroes' name. But the murders' name lives on.

Since when has pointing out a country's problems become country bashing? Do you want to live in a lie? Then you're part of the problem if you think your nation is formidable in every aspect and everyone saying something bad about it that is true means they're bashing it.

Why should the news organizations keep the story going? Because they have to give the hero the recognition he deserves, they have to give him fame. They could simply talk about the murderer as "some troubled man" and let that rest, they don't need to report on the killer as well, they choose to because people care more about that. Same as when a lunatic kills 10+ people but does not get stopped you hear about the issue for WEEKS! And you're saying that this hero, who saved lives, is worth less then a killer? No, he should get at least the recognition these murderers get, if not more.

I actually heard a lot about the hero who stopped the gunman on Fox news here in the US. A lot more was said about him than was said about the gunman. Maybe you been watching the wrong news networks from here?

That could be true, I admit.

You know what they say, "it's the quiet ones you have to look out for." People seem to take that as someone who's going to snap... Rather it might be the one who jumps your ass should you pull anything. lol No on even suspects what the quiet, gentle one is capable of.

Indeed, you never know when something like this might happen and someone you don't expect would do such an act of heroism.

[Anyael]

The reason they mention his religion so much is because it is a private Christian college.

Yeah, brave dude.

[Themius]

This is an odd forum.

With all the talk of feminism and how males are treated unfairly we have several people questioning why a man would carry pepper spray, as though it's only for women.

[Deleted]

The reason they mention his religion so much is because it is a private Christian college.

Yeah, brave dude.

Indeed, it makes sense they'd mention it, although it isn't relevant to his act of heroism in my opinion. Yet I think they didn't have what else to write.

[Deleted]

This is an odd forum.

With all the talk of feminism and how males are treated unfairly we have several people questioning why a man would carry pepper spray, as though it's only for women.

Because idiots think pepper spray is "not a manly weapon", having been sprayed with that shit I can say with certainty that they are wrong.

[Post]

Indeed, it makes sense they'd mention it, although it isn't relevant to his act of heroism in my opinion. Yet I think they didn't have what else to write.

Yeah they're just describing him like they do with anyone on the news. It's hilarious people automatically criticize it because it's religion while ignoring any other characteristic they mention.