Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc. Ruling

[Wells]

If you're looking for perfectly equal sexual health coverage, how about we agree that neither 'side' gets any coverage through employer-based plans? Wait, that doesn't work for you? I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that women consume an inordinately higher percentage of 'sexual health' dollars, even though they spend the same amount on insurance. Because, you know, inequality is only bad when it cuts against the target demographic.

I have yet to see any of these suits use this as their reason for wanting out of these drugs. Its always religious.

[Beazy]

No, Viagra promotes having sex.




Except Hobby Lobby does cover Viagra.

Exactly. Christians want their flock to procreate. Which is why every christian and catholic will get behind viagra as long as the drug exists.

[Chrysia]

Exactly. Christians want their flock to procreate. Which is why every christian and catholic will get behind viagra as long as the drug exists.

Sex =/= procreation.

[Wells]

Exactly. Christians want their flock to procreate. Which is why every christian and catholic will get behind viagra as long as the drug exists.

I don't see any lawsuits trying to get out of covering vasectomies.

[Rukentuts]

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that women consume an inordinately higher percentage of 'sexual health' dollars, even though they spend the same amount on insurance.

We better cut those hundreds of millions from Medicare for penis pumps then.

I don't think women over 65 are using much birth control but call it a hunch.

[Beazy]

I don't see any lawsuits trying to get out of covering vasectomies.

Neither do I. Hopefully someone will.

[Deleted]

Oh do tell us what this Big Bad President did to you now...Or are you just parroting what everyone else says because it's cool?

There are many things that Obama has done to this country - unnecessarily blocking the Keystone pipeline, trading 5 terrorists for a fucking traitor, shoved the ACA into law without one single debate. He refuses to enforce the immigration laws that are already on our books (there is NOTHING wrong with out current immigration law, it does not need a "comprehensive" overhaul. That is just some bullshit being pushed by all the illegals that want amnesty - which is what Obama plans to do with his "fuck congress, I'll do it myself" decree.)

But the one major thing that he did that shows what a total fucking idiot he is was the rollout of Obamacare. ANY person who would allow the SIGNATURE hallmark of their administration to be such a debacle shows that he has NO idea how to run a business, let alone a country. And then he FULLY ADMITS he had no clue that it was going to be such a disaster. Are you fucking kidding me? Had that been me (and I have started and successfully run my own business for over 10 years) I would have been intimately involved with every detail along the way, making sure that the program was as close to perfect as possible. He did none of that. That, in itself, is TOTAL INCOMPETENCE. On top of that, with so many folks in the US out of work - he gave the contract for the website and rollout to a fucking CANADIAN company.

He has an adversarial attitude and he has never ONCE tried to actually work with Congress (unlike Clinton or Bush). He basically has a "holier than thou" attitude that has pissed off A LOT of people - not just Republicans, but Democrats as well. He conducts himself as if he is a King and not a President.

Just watch what happens this November, the Senate is going to go Republican - and the end of the year the King will be impeached.

BTW - all of you - quit saying that Obama is black. He is only HALF black, which means he is NOT the "first black president". And quit saying that people that cannot stand him are just a bunch of racists - there is no way he would have ever been elected TWO TIMES without Whitey voting for him, considering that White are STILL the majority in the USA. I would vote for Allen West or Ben Carson for President in a heartbeat.

[bergmann620]

I have yet to see any of these suits use this as their reason for wanting out of these drugs. Its always religious.

So, greed is better than religion as a justification?

[Rukentuts]

So, greed is better than religion as a justification?

At least financial implications are a concrete thing.

[zackeryt]

I don't see any lawsuits trying to get out of covering vasectomies.

You would think they could drop vasectomies now. Those aren't neccessary.

[Captain N]

There are many things that Obama has done to this country - unnecessarily blocking the Keystone pipeline, trading 5 terrorists for a fucking traitor, shoved the ACA into law without one single debate. He refuses to enforce the immigration laws that are already on our books (there is NOTHING wrong with out current immigration law, it does not need a "comprehensive" overhaul. That is just some bullshit being pushed by all the illegals that want amnesty - which is what Obama plans to do with his "fuck congress, I'll do it myself" decree.)

But the one major thing that he did that shows what a total fucking idiot he is was the rollout of Obamacare. ANY person who would allow the SIGNATURE hallmark of their administration to be such a debacle shows that he has NO idea how to run a business, let alone a country. And then he FULLY ADMITS he had no clue that it was going to be such a disaster. Are you fucking kidding me? Had that been me (and I have started and successfully run my own business for over 10 years) I would have been intimately involved with every detail along the way, making sure that the program was as close to perfect as possible. He did none of that. That, in itself, is TOTAL INCOMPETENCE. On top of that, with so many folks in the US out of work - he gave the contract for the website and rollout to a fucking CANADIAN company.

He has an adversarial attitude and he has never ONCE tried to actually work with Congress (unlike Clinton or Bush). He basically has a "holier than thou" attitude that has pissed off A LOT of people - not just Republicans, but Democrats as well. He conducts himself as if he is a King and not a President.

Just watch what happens this November, the Senate is going to go Republican - and the end of the year the King will be impeached.

BTW - all of you - quit saying that Obama is black. He is only HALF black, which means he is NOT the "first black president". And quit saying that people that cannot stand him are just a bunch of racists - there is no way he would have ever been elected TWO TIMES without Whitey voting for him, considering that White are STILL the majority in the USA. I would vote for Allen West or Ben Carson for President in a heartbeat.

So parroting what the misinformed general Obama-Haters are doing because it's cool...

[Deleted]

So, greed is better than religion as a justification?

I don't see why contraceptives should be covered BY ANYTHING. They are a personal thing and you should have to fork out the full price from your wallet yourself.

I certainly have to pay for it from my own wallet.

[Orlong]

They don't need to be equivalent. They're procedures only men need that are never contested, where as there are companies right now trying to get out of all birth control for women and this case gives them all the ammo they need.

Ive argued in several posts that I think corporations, insurance companies, and Medicare should NOT have to pay for Erectile Dysfunction treatments including Viagra. Prostate exams on the other hand are a diagnostic too to detect cancer. Not even in the same ballpark as BC

[Chrysia]

*snip*

The Keystone Pipeline is tied up in other nonsense right now, and would add something like 50 permanent jobs.

He traded 5 Taliban officials with no provable connections to terrorism for one possible deserter, who is still an American citizen and soldier.

He's actually enforcing immigration law quite well, he's simply not deporting people who did not knowingly violate the law. And yes, our immigration system is broken. We have a ludicrously long backlog of immigration requests.

The President has more concerns than the ACA. There's no way he could have micromanaged it. Could he have chosen better people to oversee it? Yes, but hindsight is 20/20.

[Deleted]

So parroting what the misinformed general Obama-Haters are doing because it's cool...

WTF? How I am "misinformed"? Please - point out one thing that I said that is not true or that is misinformed? Or are you just some typical Liberal idiot that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and uses the idiotic term "hater" because you can't actually contradict a single thing I said?


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[Orlong]

Tools that allow women to have a healthy sexual life and do not, under any medical definition, cause abortions: not covered.

Little blue pill that drives guys libido and has no other effect: covered.

Much like the BC pill, Viagra does have some nonsexual uses. Its even used for women I believe as some kind of heart medication. But it should definitely not be covered for sexual purposes

[Captain N]

WTF? How I am "misinformed"? Please - point out one thing that I said that is not true or that is misinformed? Or are you just some typical Liberal idiot that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and uses the idiotic term "hater" because you can't actually contradict a single thing I said?

I think Chrysia already took care of that for me. See above.

[Symphonic]

The President has more concerns than the ACA. There's no way he could have micromanaged it. Could he have chosen better people to oversee it? Yes, but hindsight is 20/20.

But if he wants to be remembered for making the ACA, wouldn't you think he'd want to make sure it was able to run correctly when it launched?

[Orlong]

Tools for men's sexual health: covered without question.

Tools that promote women's sexual health: contested constantly.

I dont even believe that the ability to have sex should be classified as "health" Its an optional activity that some people partake in strictly for fun, and "fun" shouldnt be a right. Health is keeping you alive and comfortable, and finding and treating diseases. Not being able to have sex isnt a disease

[Captain N]

But if he wants to be remembered for making the ACA, wouldn't you think he'd want to make sure it was able to run correctly when it launched?

And every Company that has ever put out a video game wants the same thing...Tell us how that turns out in most cases?